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This and following quotes originally posted by Jurassic Referee
No,no,no. I was the first to say that.
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I reread every post and you didnt say it first. You said in many ways that I know nothing about the rules, however that is not the same as implying I dont play basketball or know how to block someone out.
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You don't have any clue at all as to what the pertinent rules say, why those pertinent rules were enacted, and the philosophy used to actually call those rules.
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True. Any statements I have made in the verbiage of Thats not a foul arent referring to rulebook, but to how games are called, which you and others acknowledge is not in perfect alignment.
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You've never read a rulebook in your life.
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False. I read the official rules of Bocce ball just last summer. Despite never having read an official basketball rulebook, I am quite clear what the rules of the game are, enough to play a game with enjoyment.
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You're basing your "opinion" on your many years of experience sitting on your a$$ in your LaZBoy watching games.
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False. I have played basketball most of my life and enjoy it still (at 30). I was never allowed to play football, and didnt enjoy baseball. I played on school teams up to J-V, and then transferred to a much larger high school. In college I played on my fraternitys team in Intramurals. I have also played in various church leagues, and Gus Macker style tournaments. Currently I play twice weekly with friends and with a group at work (no refs obviously)
I dislike your rude characterizations. It diminishes your credibility and integrity. I thought referees were better than normal at leaving personal stuff aside in disputes? I guess not. Well then, your mom is fat, if not dead, and you are old.
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Every single official that has responded to you so far in this thread has told you that "displacing/upsetting/moving" (your words, fanboy, and they couldn't be more exact) an opponent is a foul.
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To which I have repeatedly replied Ill submit to multiple ruling that what I am describing must be a foul, but that means I am not describing it properly
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You've also been told several times that, even though it is a foul, it may not be called all the time.
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Hmm
Do I even care what the rulebook says about it, if it is not called in accordance with the rulebook? No.
Never mind the fact that I have not agreed as to the definition of what it is.
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The only person having a "comprehension" problem in this thread is YOU. You only seem to hear what you want to hear.
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I comprehend fine. Let me distill my perspective down to a simple little story. Now the referee in this story does not represent one particular person, but really just my experience:
Me: To Thing-a-ma-jig properly, you do this.
Ref: That is a foul.
Me: When I thing-a-ma-jig, I dont get called, nor do I see it called.
Ref: That is a foul.
Me: OK, then I must be describing what happens wrongly because it isnt called.
Ref: You described it wrong, and it is a foul.
Me: Wait, what I described
improperly, or what Im trying to describe is a foul?
Ref: Yes.
Ref: And you described it improperly because you dont understand basketball rules.
Ref: And you are a lazy a$$ and have never touched a basketball.
Me: Well, whatever. I know how to block out and its never called a foul, and there is contact. Im losing something in the translation. And you are old.
Ref: Its not called all the time.
Me: !?
Ref: You dont comprehend.
I guess not.
[Edited by ryan330i on Apr 16th, 2004 at 08:51 PM]