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Originally posted by joemoore
I'm a logical person, I teach logic at the college level. To me it is common sense to go 100% by the lineup card. In real baseball it is not an issue because there are no courtesy runners.
Anyway, that's my opinion, that's the way I'll call it until I get fired or they change the book (or someone can point me to a rule or FED approved ruling on the specific issue.)
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For a logical person your statements make no sense.
What do you mean that's how I'll call it. You've been given the examples of how you would have made the game a fiasco, and others have given you the rule that states no projected substitutions. (that's in the rule book use it)
Finally there is an exact case play (which if you will read the forward of the book it states that this is a rule book) that handles this play. It also states that you may not project a substitution. The case play is in the 2004 Case Book 3.1.1 Situation N.
Just in case you don't have it I'll quote it:
Smith is the catcher and Jones is the left fielder as their team leaves the field to come to bat. Their coach tells U1 that Smith will go to left field and Jones will go in as catcher when the team returns to defense. the coach is really wishing to make the change so that the slower Jones can have a courtesy runner if he gets on base in the half-inning.
RULING: The umpire shall not allow a Projected substitution. Therefore, a courtesy runner would only be allowed to run for the player who was the catcher on defense before coming to bat. (courtesy runner rules)
So FED has a specific and approved ruling. Now you have something you can use.
The same rule would apply for the F1. He must have been the F1 on defense before coming to bat. (that's logical right?)
And BTW, you might need to let your buddies know,
they were right on the ruling.
Common sense in baseball makes a whole lot more sense than logic also as Garth stated above.
Thanks
David