[Jurassic Referee]

Originally posted by wizard

If they pivot and roll before the contact, it's usually an illegal screen. Whether it gets called or not is another story. [/B]

How can it be illegal if there is no contact?

What are we thinking "using their backside" means? If it means the screener pivots then moves out the defender with his backside, then we have a foul. If it means the screener pivots then holds his position, I don't see how this can be a foul.

[/B][/QUOTE]I don't think that I did say that. However, I meant that contact while the screener is moving as in the coach's example is an illegal screen.

Now, maybe you can explain something to me. You stated " If the screener pivots and then holds his position, I don't see how this can be a foul". If the screener pivots into the defender's path, and then the contact occurs even though the moving defender wasn't enough given time or distance to avoid that contact-just because the screener WAS stationary when that contact occurs, you are saying that this isn't an illegal screen? Right? Rule 10-6-3(c)- "A player who screens shall not take a position so close to a moving opponent that this opponent cannot avoid contact by stopping or changing direction". That's exactly why the screener using his butt in the coach's example is usually an illegal screen.

I edited this to remove a sarcastic remark- one that I had no business making in the first place. It was out of line in this thread.

[Edited by Jurassic Referee on Apr 2nd, 2004 at 09:33 AM]