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Originally posted by Judge Roy
Stop defending Teddy Valentine. if you guys policed your own, you wouldn't hear the criticism you hear.
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Why? We have every right to defend an official when the coach is the one that got himself thrown out. It is not our job to walk away or to accomidate coaches. We can stand anywhere we please and mechanically, it is not required for Valentine to even leave his position. The mechanic was created to give coaches the opportunity to be heard from the calling official. Barnes should have walked away. And he did not, that is why he got tossed.
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Originally posted by Judge Roy
By the way, someone here said the official "passed on" three events of conduct by Xavier on the last three possessions.
please tell me someting. Where is the written authority for an official to "pass on" calling a violation of the rules?
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Attend a camp or talk to many officials, you will find out that you do not call "boarderline" calls or plays that are not obvious. That is where the term, "call the obvious" comes from. And it has been written about in many officiating books and Referee Magazine and this site talks about that all the time. And even in the rulebook it talks about applying the "spirit of the rules" and calling things that do put teams at a disadvantage. But if you were an official, you would know that.
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Originally posted by Judge Roy
I have asked that question for years, but no one seems able to produce the written authority.
There is a very serious reason for asking that question.
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Well if you do not have the answer, you need to get out of the house more. You need to buy many publications and subscribe to things that talk about officiating. I officiate 3 sports, and it is very common to talk about not calling things that no one understands or does not jump out at you as an official. And all you have to do is go to a basketball camp for officiating, and that will become very clear from the clinicians and instructors.
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Originally posted by Judge Roy
This one too - Who gives officials authority to ever call anything other than every single violation of the rules they see?
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Again, you need to get out of the house more or officiate some real ball. Because everything that looks bad is not a violation or against the rules. Especially if you are a coach. Because most things that coaches think are rules, are the furthest from it (feet set to get a PC Foul, getting your own rebound on an air ball, not being able to come back inbounds and make a play on the ball). The list goes on and on.
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Originally posted by Judge Roy
Do officials' associations have authority to alter the rules of the game? To advise their members not to enforce violations?
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What does an official's association have to do with altering the rules? I see again, more evidence you know nothing about officiating.
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Originally posted by Judge Roy
Someone here surely knows these answers and has a copy of the written document allowing officials to "pass on" calls. Surely it exists. Officials wouldn't intentionally allow the rules to be violated without sanction would they?
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If you are an official, I see you are not a very good one. Mainly because you seem to not understand what "passing on" something even means. It does not mean that a violation or foul has taken place, but it does mean that it was a close play and the official in their judgment decided that there was nothing to call. And because basketball is such a fast sport, there are many places that things happen that might not warrant a call. But then again, you are not a good official to even know that fact. Because if you have been asking this for years, you have not really wanted to find out the answer. The main reason we as officials just to not T up a coach if one foot is out of the coaching box. Does the rules allow us to do that, of course it does. Is that good common sense officiating, to not be that strict and to do everything in your power to get the coach in that position. But folks like you will never understand that concept, because you spend more time trying to complain about what is done then realizing if we called all contact a foul and all marginal violations, the game would not be fun to watch and coaches and fans would be on us more than they are now. But then again, the fact you think that matters to "real" officials just shows what understanding of officiating and the game means to us when the coaches or fans get on us. I do not know about you, but I get paid regardless of who wins or loses. And if a coach does not like the job I do, I passed several to get to that one. Just one place I do not have to go. Makes life a little easier.
Peace