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				Originally posted by ace  
I always ask for a verbal and signal indication - I dont grant requests until i see and hear it and I dont report until i ask twice or get verbal and signal from a coach.  And I dont ask more than 3 times before he's stuck with a full unless hhes out. 
			
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 This is a great technique that I also use; I ask about a max of 3 times, then slowly give the verbal and visual signal for a full, If they don't get the hint by then, full TO!
If they turn around and whine, just tell them that they are wasting a Full TO!  If they want to dispute it at the cost of another full TO, let em!