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Originally posted by Bart Tyson
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One last thing, I keep hearing about $15 to do the games. Who cares about that. If someone is reffing games for $15 and doesnt feel the need to do a good job, then they shouldnt be doing it. The younger kids are the ones that need the better refs so they can learn.
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You still don't get it. $15 refs may not have the skills of a $150+ ref. Be thankful you have someone who is willing to go out and take the abuse from coach-want-a-be who thinks he knows the rules and how to ref a game. If you want top officials then take the $ out of your pocket and pay for top officials.
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I watched another 6 foot kid from another team with Hakeem type skills get away with traveling all year because the ref wanted the game to end early.
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If you have never seen a rule book, how do you even know what to look for in traveling. and how do you know they wanted to leave early?
I think you are sounding a whole lot like another so called coach who post in this board. It seems he too could win championship games despite the refs. Sooo to sum this up, I don't believe a word you have said and i don't even think you are a coach.
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You know Bart, that is just plain not fair.
Number 1, the refs that do my games also do the outside program games and 15-17 year old games. They make all the calls and know the rules and are perfectly capable of keeping up with a fast paced run and gun game.
Number 2, I play basketball every Sunday night with the other coaches and refs and have heard one of the refs say that he didnt call certain calls because he wanted the game to end early. He happens to coach the 8 year old travel team and wanted to keep his game on track he said.
Number 3, I didnt realize that you needed to read an entire rule book to know what a traveling violation was or a carry. The kid I was speaking about would receive the ball in the high post, pivot and face the basket. Good so far. Then he would fake left and go right taking a step without dribbling the ball and proceed to take another step before finally dribbling. Now this kid was the same height as my big guy, only this kid could jump 3 x as high and was skinny, quick and could dribble. There was no reason for the refs to let him get away with that move all year. It hurt him because he didnt learn to change the habit. His coach didnt correct it, because he wasnt getting called on it and it allowed him to beat the other big kids to the basket and get a layup.
As far as me being a coach, my son is 11 and I have been coaching his teams since he was 4. I really think it is funny how one little question turns into a whole big thing. Bottom line is that my team is a good group of kids that I practice with every week and the kids all listen. The board in my league actually had a meeting and asked the refs to make the calls for the playoffs and championship games and they actually did a good job calling the games showing they are perfectly capable. The only problem that I had was with the double and triple teaming. But we worked around it anyway.