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Originally posted by Snaqwells
First some definitions.
Missed Call: A misapplication of the rules. This would include phantom travels, missed back court violations, and calling a foul with zero contact.
Questionable calls: Calls requiring judgment due to the nature of the call/no call. This includes having to make a split second determination of whether his foot hit the line (back court and out of bounds), whether the contact made warrants a foul, or whether the behavior warrants a T.
You'll find refs are more likely to claim someone made a "missed" call when it's obvious than to challenge a "questionable" call. Even then there is a strong (implied or expressed) caveat that our opinion assumes the play described happened as written. Some might go so far as to say they wouldn't have call it that way, but rarely will they say the ref kicked a judgment call. Even when we see it (in person or on TV). It's the common courtesy of deferring to the one who actually had to make the call.
Now, the two plays you offered as examples don't work. One (the foul on the shot) was a judgment call, it seems. The other seems to have been a case where the refs got it right and the journalist was woefully ignorant of the rule.
Unless you have more concrete examples of "missed" calls, your point goes nowhere.
Secondly, you would need to show that the PAC-10 is worse off than other conferences. That would be quite a task, given that you won't find confirmation from fans of other conferences; and you admittedly don't watch other conferences. One must assume, therefore, that you are complaining about D-1 officials in general. yet I think you would need to show us that officials are actually "missing" calls rather than judging it differently than you would.
Why are you here? Are you here to vent or are you here to discuss? We don't take what look like uninformed rants very well. If you're here to discuss, then ask questions about individual plays. We'll answer rules questions, interpretation questions, and even officiating philosophy questions. Tell me what you expect out of participating in this board.
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Brad, Snagwells, good posts. I differ on the Hansen article, and fail to see any factual errors, but the Daily Wildcat quote is crap. The Bibby quote was used to show how frustrating it is not to have many options when a coach/player/fan has questions about officiating. I know he is a big whiner, but in his quote, he's complaining that he can't say anything about officiating or officials because he would risk a fine, censure, or both.
I guess that's why I'm here. I saw this as an avenue to discuss officiating, and I realize that I need to be more specific on my concerns out of respect for the members of this forum. It's easy to forget that officials are human, and the pressure of calling any game has got to be intense. After reading other threads here, I was comforted knowing the passion and commitment that was displayed. I'm sure some of you can understand, I was frustrated, and felt like I had a legitimate concern about PAC 10 officiating. In the future, I will try to address specific plays and use as much supportive evidence as I can muster.
Thanks for all constructive replies. Cincinatti is playing Louisville right now, and OSU and Arizona are playing tonight, so I've got some games to watch.