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Yawn. Why did anybody try to respond seriously to this thread?
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Yeah, like anybody's gonna change fanboy's mind. Waste of time.
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I'm betting ol' numbnuts here also posts as BBallCoach! Whatta ya say?
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The thought that this is a rebirth of Bballcoach DEFINITELY crossed my mind much earlier in the thread. Regardless of the reality whether he is or is not, it is certain that he is of the same ilk.
Williebfree and icallfouls gave a clear challenge for wildcatfan to accept that we would not agree on this issue just by the nature of our allegiances. wildcatfan then perpetuated his uninformed stance by citing an officiating.com thread which had brief and unapplicable content to support his argument. His self-proclaimed fallacy of an unbias stance and the illegitimacy of his resources is getting tiring.
IMHO, THERE IS NOTHING CONSTRUCTIVE TO BE GAINED by continuing this thread. THis is my first AND LAST posting in this thread.
Good day!
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Listen, if you guys can't take criticism, then you are way too full of yourselves. I think I was very constructive in my comments, and I NEVER ONCE said I was unbiased, and in fact stated the opposite. I'll state it again- yes I am biased, yes I care who wins or loses, but I would much rather have consistent and accurate officiating then anything else, including wins. I have no idea who "Bballcoach" is. This is my first time to this forum and while there are some here that understand it's purpose- to promote any and all discourse on officiating and things related- it's obvious that there are many here who cannot take criticism.
Williebfree and icallfouls made constructive, intelligent points, and I gave them credit for that. Some of you need to read a few more times before you reply.
I am called "uninformed," among other things. Do I need to know everything about something to have an opinion on it? If this is true, then some of you are saying only officials can judge other officials on officiating. I think the rational people here will see that this is debatable- just because someone doesn't know all the rules doesn't mean that they can't see a bad call. How many times have any of you been watching a game when a non-referee friend notice a bad or missed call before you?
If I am so uninformed and so blind to the ways of officiating, then prove me wrong. May the first of you that has never had a missed or bad call tell me that I am totally wrong about the PAC 10, and it's all the players, coaches, and fans who are mistaken.
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If you don't know the rules,what is illegal contact,what is incidental contact how can you honestly know if it was a
bad call?
This is not a put down,I'm actually trying to explain how things work on the court.
In your original post you were citing a bad call on a block that was,"All ball,he was 3 feet away from him."
Were you watching the whole play or just the block? It is very possible that the foul occurred BEFORE the block,but the official was applying advantage/disadvantage,and when the defender was able to block the shot he deemed the contact BEFORE the block did hinder the shooter.
You added money to the problem by saying,"That some officials are working for peanuts and want to do as good a job as they can,because they love the game." That is true,but let me ask you,if you are making $750 to $1,000
a game would you not try your best? It would be STUPID not to because less then 10% of officials get to work at that
level,so there are tens of thousands of us that would gladly take their place. They are evaluated on EVERY game.
They keep their jobs by maintaining a high level of officiating and working to get better.
Officials are human and we will make mistakes,at that level the players are too big and gifted for the officials to see everything that occurs.They have dedicated years of hard work to reach this level and are working hard to stay there.However,they are doing a job where they are expected
to be perfect and still GET BETTER!