[greymule]

Pitch ... bounce.... swing is one scenario.

Pitch ... start swing ... bounce just before the hitting or missing of the ball - this is the scenario in question.

Thank you, mcrowder. The way the book is worded, it seems clearly to prohibit "pitch . . . bounce . . . swing." In slow pitch, this rule makes a great deal of sense, since some batters could undoubtedly hit such pitches out of the park, and swinging after the bounce would be dangerous.

If the ball bounces on or before the plate, and then the batter swings and hits it, we'll call that a ball and everybody will accept our ruling. You can't swing after the ball hits the ground.

What I'm looking for is a consistent and logical way to call pitch/swing/ground/miss and pitch/swing/ground/hit. And it seems to me that they have to be called the same way. Since both cases represent legitimate but failed attempts to hit the ball properly, maybe the call should be strike.

So Claven is a know-it-all. I am truly sorry if I ever come across that way. It is precisely because I do not know it all that I post on this board. I do seek convincing answers, though.

[Edited by greymule on Feb 9th, 2004 at 08:53 PM]