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Old Fri Jan 30, 2004, 01:56pm
PS2Man PS2Man is offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by MN 3 Sport Ref
Quote:
Originally posted by PS2Man
RD,

I hope that it was so loud that everyone could hear it?

Profanity is not profanity. Everything has a context.
PS2:

Unfortunately the fed does not see it this way.

Unsporting fouls:

10.7.A A player shall not disrepectfully address an official in such a manner to idicate resentment.

10.7.B Use profane or innapropriate language or obsence jestures.

Penalty for all is a T.

I agree that a cuss word said under the breath could go by with a talking to but addressing an official as in the obove case MUST be a T. IMO It is because we choose to "ignore" this much of the time that players and coaches see it as acceptable. If one official calls it correctly and another does not we loose consistancy. In my area (minnesota) the sportsmanship in BB has continually deteriorated since I have began officiating and IMO it is partially becaues we as officials do not strive for consistancy pertaining to what is andis not acceptable on the court. I agree that there is subjectivity here but I think sometimes we as officials give players and coaches so much rope we end up hanging ourselves as well as the game w/ it. My 2 cents.
I am not saying that the rule supports profanity. But we are also their to call the obvious and to make sure that we make calls that are acceptable and can be accepted when we make them. Really hard to do that when it is your word against their word. And I have had this happen in my games a few times over my 15 year career. And you can pull the player to the side and have a short word with them and it does not happen again. And you can also tell the coach and most of them will thank you for informing them. It is not good officiating to eject a player for the first time when you are the only person in that loud gym that hears this. In most states that I have worked this is a reportable offense. If you report it, you have to have some evidence for what was said. And that can and has been disputed. You can call the toe on the lane a 3 seconds call, but if you make many calls like that your other calls are not going to be accepted. A T would not be my first reaction when I am the only person that heard it.
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