[QUOTE]
Originally posted by thadrus
Quote:
Originally posted by Mark Padgett
Quote:
Originally posted by Mark Padgett
Quote:
Originally posted by Bradley Batt
The only case where a team gets the arrow AND the ball on the jump is if the other team's jumper catches the ball before it has been touched by anyone else.
|
Or before it has hit the ground, a basket or a backboard.
|
And there are some others too, are there not. Non-jumper into the circle early, double tip by the jumper, etc. I'm hoping that any jump ball violation is 'ball and arrow'.
|
Hope all you want -- it's not true.
See, the "jumper catching the ball" is simultaneous control and violation. The arrow is set based on a team gaining control -- so the arrow is set to B's basket as soon as A catches the ball. It's also a violation, so B gets the ball. Two things happened; two rulings -- they both happen to favor B. It's just as if B2 caught the tip, then immediately travelled. Note that in this case, the arrow is set before the throw-in.
On all the other violations, team control is never established, so the arrow doesn't get set as a result of the jump ball action. It gets set as a result of the violation -- A violates, so B gets the ball. B getting the ball results in the arrow being set for A. Note that in this case the arrow isn't set until the ball is at the disposal of the
thrower-in inbounder.