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Originally posted by lightenup
He did state that these two happened in different games so ease up on the judgement comments a little.
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Yep -- I missed that part.
And, apologies if it sounded like "preaching" -- very rarely do these events happen exactly at the same time. Decide what happend first and rule accordingly -- it's similar to the case where a violation and a foul happen "at the same time" -- the officials are to decide which happened first.