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Old Wed Jan 21, 2004, 02:16am
JRutledge JRutledge is offline
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Thumbs up I agree (kind of long, sorry).

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Originally posted by stripes


Read the whole post. I never said that saying the foul cout is whatever is justification for a T. I said that if a coach starts the coversation, he put himself on the path that leads to a T. I don't believe we are baiting the coach by continuing a conversation that is really about him saying that we are cheating for the other team, especially if he starts the conversation.

I agree that we should stop the conversation if at all possible, but some coaches won't let it go. Make them call you a cheater (that is what they are implying anyway), give them the T and be done with it. Totally justified.
I totally agree with you on this. We are not starting anything by commenting on what the coach said. They are the one that are trying to call us out and if we allow that to happen or to continue, what else will they call us? If you do not want me to react, do not call me a "cheater." Just because you did not use that word, what else could you be implying? Again, they do not say anything to us when 7-2 is in their favor do they? So why all the crap when it is not? Our commenting is just trying to give them a chance to think about what they are saying. If they really think about it, they might just back off. But I do not want the "7-2" comments to go on all night when it is clear I am not purposely doing anything to make that happen. I have usually past 20 schools to get to that one, and if that team is on the road, I did not ask to do a game in most cases with them there. I officiate, like many where I am asked to go. I have no vendetta to fullfill. So telling me the foul count is out of line in my opinion.

A short story. I did a Div. 3 college game about 2 years ago at a school in Indiana. The visiting team was from Florida. Come to find out the coach and AD had ties to this particular school they were playing in Indiana and the Chicago area. The assignor is from a Chicago suburb, both my partners are from Chicago area as well. We all drove together which was about a 2 hour drive to this school. So neither the officials or assignor had anything directly to do with this school in Indiana at all. In the first half, the Florida coach made this comment to me when the foul count was not in his favor. "I am from Indiana too." I said right back to him, "I am not from Indiana." Let me ask you this, what do you think he was implying? Well in the second half, the script completely flipped. The Florida team started out playing more aggressive and the fouls pretty much flipped in the other way. Now the Florida team had less fouls called on them and the Indiana team was getting called for just about everything because they were getting completely out hustled. The Indiana coach did not say another word the entire night after our little conversation. And considering how things turned out, we could not have been screwing him at all. But it my comments made him think and he had to at least pause and think about what I said to him. The same goes when a coach is screaming the foul count and we comment.

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