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Originally posted by Hawks Coach
It isn't a question of a more liberal situation. It is a question of one gym, one book, game in progress, and names/numbers get put in the book immediately following game, immediately preceding next game. Warm-ups are 3-5 minutes - that's when the book is being filled out. This isn't a failure to follow the rules, it's a league that hasn't ever imagined using a 10-minute rule.
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Without regard to that, the rule would require that the T come before the game started. If there's a name in the book, there's a number or we start the game with a T, even if the 10 min. requirement isn't followed.
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Originally posted by Dan_ref
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Originally posted by BktBallRef
Coach, I'm not concerned with whether it's a rec game or a HS game. I'm answering the question based on what the rule is. If ref18 wants to elaborate and discuss what you might do in a more "liberal situation," then I'll certainly reply. But by rule, my answer is correct.
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I had a juco game the other night, 14 visitors warming up, 13 visitors in the book at 11:00. By the time I got the visitors assistant to say "Wait! I know! We picked up a new player to replace one of our ineligibles!" (gotta love the junior colleges  ) the coach had taken his team off for their pregame locker room meeting. So at 9:30 the kid's name went in the book, at about 5 minutes when they came back onto the floor his number went in the book & we started the game without freethrows.
And my streak remains alive... 
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And that's fine. I had a rookie coach on Monday night he didn't know the roster had to be submitted by the 10 min. mark. He filled it out, I signed off at the 7 min. mark and all was fine.
But in the situation we're discussing, the coach did not have the numbers available until the players arrived. Therefore, if he's going to put the names in the book before the game, then the T for no numbers happens before the game.
If he wants to wait until the players, who may or may not show, arrive, then he can put the names and the numbers in at that time and we can assess the T then. But if he wants the names in the book before the game, then we have a T if he doesn't have the numbers.
Personally, I don't care which he does but it will effect when the T is administered.
[Edited by BktBallRef on Dec 3rd, 2003 at 07:18 PM]