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				Originally posted by CLAY  
The best ref shoe out there is the New Balance.  I have tried the patent leather, and after 2-3 games the shoes smelled so bad it was hard to ride home with them, and they were in the trunk. 
			
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 There is no right or wrong when we talk about this issue.  Whatever you like is what you should use.  I have both the New Balance 608 and the Patent Leather Converse shoes.  I love them both.  I use the Patented Leather shoes for college and sactioned HS games.  I use the New Balance for the summer and games that are not "real" ones.  I never where the NB 608 shoes because they do not maintain the shine.  And when I where the PL shoes,  no one knows they are that way unless I have told them they are PL or if they have seen them.  I was one of the first to have the shoes in my area and no one knew they were PL at all.  Now they have become popular and everyone has them.  I have not met anyone that did not like them. 
Peace