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Originally posted by Camron Rust
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Originally posted by Dan_ref
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Originally posted by Camron Rust
I actually think both are violations.
For #2, I can't believe so many feel this is legal. Passes are allowed along/outside the endline. They are not allowed outside the sideline (which this becomes). The endline stops at the corner. It's not what the players intended to do that matters but what they actually did.
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If the endline stops at the corner why does the sideline continue past the corner? Paraphrasing Chuck: is there some double secret special property that sidelines have that endlines do not?
BTW, I completely miss the point of your analogy.
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I mangled it...
If the endline continues past the corner then so would the sideline.
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Which means the ball remains beyond the endline (more on this follows). And I can't find anywhere in the rules where it says the throw-in must remain on any particular side of the sideline except as it relates directly to the act of passing the ball inbounds. However....
Upon rereading the original sitch I agree that the ball should made dead when it hits the bleachers or wall on the pass - A.D.D. must have taken hold as I thought the ball was merely rolling around near the bleachers (too many damn words nevada!). Sorry. But I do not think we have a violation yet, potentially it's just a do-over. As to your point - again, after asking my 8 year old neice to help me with the big words in nevada's post - I can see what you're saying about the ball potentially being on the wrong side of the endline. I agree it's a violation if it passes *over* the endline on the pass (or if A2's deflection causes this) & lands on the OOB side of the sideline. If it hits the bleachers or a wall on the OOB side of the endline then it's a do-over, regardless of which side of the sideline this happens.
Agree?