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Originally Posted by Nevadaref
One of the most interesting backcourt calls you will ever see just happened in Kansas v St. John’s with 1:30 remaining in the first half.
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Originally Posted by JRutledge
Am I missing something?
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Originally Posted by IUgrad92
Correct/Incorrect call? If it were a ball being saved from going OOB, and the same call made, obviously would have been incorrect.
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Originally Posted by Nevadaref
There is more to this play than you are currently thinking. I believe that this video will lead to some excellent discussion.
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Originally Posted by Nevadaref
If the player merely bats the ball to prevent it from entering the backcourt, then this is a legal play. However, if he catches the ball in one hand and deliberately throws it to the floor in the frontcourt, then this is the start of a dribble and the player has control of the ball. During a dribble a player is not permitted to step out of bounds or into the backcourt, even while he is not in contact with the ball. That is what we must determine. Clearly the official working the contest deemed this to be a catch and deliberate throw. Also, I do not believe that this could qualify as an interrupted dribble as that involves the ball temporarily getting away from the dribbler by accident. This player put the ball exactly where he wanted.
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Originally Posted by bob jenkins
But, NFHS case 7.1.1D seems to be similar to this play, except OOB instead of BC, and it's allowed.
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7.1.1 SITUATION D: A1 jumps from inbounds to retrieve an errant pass near a boundary line. A1
catches the ball while in the air, gaining player control, and tosses it back to the court. A1 lands
out of bounds and (a) is the first to touch the ball after returning inbounds; (b) returns inbounds
and immediately dribbles the ball; or (c) picks up the ball after returning to the court and then
begins a dribble. RULING: Legal in (a) and (b). Illegal in (c) as the controlled toss of the ball to
the court by A1 constitutes the start of a dribble, dribbling a second time after picking up the ball
is an illegal dribble violation.
Much discussion about this NCAA possible backcourt play at our table at our basketball referee banquet last night.
One of our guys actually had a similar play in his high school game a few weeks ago.
Regarding treating this as a dribble and player control, the NFHS does not define (4-9-1) the division line as a boundary (only the four perimeter lines are boundaries), and thus the dribbling near a boundary line and touching the boundary line with a foot while not contact with the ball (9-3-1-Note) does
not apply to the division line.
4-9-1: Boundary lines of the court consist of end lines and sidelines.
9-3-1-Note: The dribbler has committed a violation if he/she steps on or outside a boundary, even though he/she is not touching the ball while he/she is out of bounds.
Could someone please explain to me exactly why this was called a backcourt violation?
NFHS Backcourt 9-9-1: A player shall not be the first to touch the ball after it has been in team control in the frontcourt, if he or a teammate last touched or was touched by the ball in the frontcourt before it went to the backcourt.
NBA and WNBA make this perfectly clear:
2024-25 NBA Rules Rule 4, Section VI.d(2): A ball being dribbled is in the backcourt if the ball or either foot of the player in in the backcourt.
2025 WNBA Rules Rule 4, Section VI.d(2): A ball being dribbled is in the backcourt if the ball or either foot of the player in in the backcourt.
Not so clear in NFHS.
I predicted this back in August 2026:
https://forum.officiating.com/basket...ml#post1054108