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					Originally Posted by BillyMac  NFHS: Use the shot clock to administer the 10-second backcourt count (9-8). Use a silent, visible 10-second count when there is no shot clock visible.
 Just discovered that NCAAW have a better guideline:
 
 NCAAW: When the shot clock is off at the end of a quarter or overtime, officials would use the game clock to determine when a 10-second backcourt violation has occurred.
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 Billy, I know you've discussed this before. Where or when was it written that a 10 second back court count after a throw-in does not start until the offense establishes team control?
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