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Originally posted by SC Ump
But as for the previous question...
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Sorry, my bad for hijacking the thread. I do think the making a play issue with ASA's interp is an interesting discussion topic, but we should take it to another thread
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and yes, I know that from previous posts, I believe my opinion on this will be different than most on this board...
My understanding is that the player "may stop once". However, when the pitcher has received the ball and R1 has continued to third, she has made a commitment in returning. At that point she has given up her right to stop once.
Speaking FED, there is absolutely nothing I know of in the current rule book that supports my belief on this. The only support is the history of the look-back rule, at least in the history of it since 1990 when I got involved. Again, speaking FED, the rule just went through a major re-write that was supposedly for clarification and not content change. With the discussions generate in the two local organizations I am in, and on the couple of boards I visit, I would hope either wording or cases will be added to further clarify or to confirm that "content change" concerning this rule really was intended.
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Maybe for FED, but ASA is somewhat self-contradictory on this in the POE. This is not quite the same as the 2 stops question, but I can see ruling a LB violation based on commitment to 3rd.
ASA Rule 8-7T.1
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When a runner is legitimately off a base after a pitch or as a result of a batter completing a turn at bat, and while the pitcher has control of the ball within an eight foot radius of the pitcher's plate, the runner may stop once, ...
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The runner in WMB's situation met all of the conditions here (legitimately off the base, etc.) Yet, ASA POE 33 says
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If a runner is moving toward a base, other than first base, when the pitcher receives the ball in the circle, that runner must continue toward that base or be called out.
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The runner also meets all of these conditions.
So, which is it? Is she allowed to stop? Or, is she required to continue non-stop?