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Old Mon Jan 02, 2023, 01:07pm
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Anything that still questionable should be addressed to them or your state.
Since the NFHS recently came out with more detailed high school shot clock guidelines, there is no need for me to address anybody at this time about anything high school shot clock related (I did have some questions about starting the shot clock (touch) two years ago when the NFHS first decided to allow shot clocks and came out with what I considered to be incomplete or ambiguous guidelines, still do in some respects).

I'm fairly confident that the CIAC and the IAABO Connecticut State Board will publicize easy to understand (or at least as easy to understand as shot clock guidelines can be) Connecticut shot clock guidelines (under the doctrine of states’ rights, that may be the same, or different, than the NFHS guidelines) in the fall of 2023. I do know that the IAABO Connecticut State Board is aware of the ambiguity regarding when the shot clock starts, touch with a shot clock, and possession with no shot clock. I'm curious to see how we handle that here in Connecticut.

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Don't we have enough officials here who know the rules who will eventually answer the question ...
Yes we certainly do.

At the time of my first post I had no idea that the NCAA ten second rule, other than the count start on a touch rather than a possession, was so much different than the NFHS ten second rule, not starting a new ten second count as we do in the high school game after the ball deflects off the defense out of bounds in the backcourt.

I was wrong, so shoot me for not knowing what I don't know.

On the other hand, ignorantia legis neminem excusat (ignorance of law excuses no one).

Note: I've been watching Perry Mason reruns on late night cable.

Not knowing, or even considering for a second, that there could be that much of a difference in the two rule sets regarding this specific situation, I came up with a plausible, but incorrect answer, (thedewed, a former college official, thought the same as me) ...

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that is what happened ...
... that the official failed to mentally subtract time from the shot clock that he used to "count" ten seconds ...

... a possible real-game problem for those of us who now, or in the future, might use the shot clock to "count" ten seconds in our high school games, high school games where the ten second count (but not the shot clock) is "reset" to ten seconds after the ball deflects off the defense out of bounds in the backcourt.

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Twenty-five will not always be the "magic number".
And here's another reason why I've become so interested this NCAA thread:

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... it might help me to understand the reasoning of an irate and confused high school coach who sees one rule on television and another in my game.
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