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Originally Posted by Raymond
4-12-1 tells us there is no difference between holding and dribbling.
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No it doesn't. Never did. Never said it.
4-12-1: A player is in control of the ball when he/she is holding or dribbling a live ball.
Holding is holding. Dribbling is dribbling. If a player is doing either one of these two completely different things, he has player control.
A player shall not be the first to touch the ball after ...
The ball has to be touched.
Not dribbled (which often doesn't involve touching).
Not player control (which often involves dribbling, dribbling that often doesn't involve touching).
The rule isn't, "A player shall not be the first in control of the ball after it has been in team control in the frontcourt, if he/she or a teammate last touched or was touched by the ball in the frontcourt before it went to the backcourt.
The ball has to be touched.
9-9-1: Backcourt: A player shall not be the first to touch the ball after it has been in team control in the frontcourt, if he/she or a teammate last touched or was touched by the ball in the frontcourt before it went to the backcourt.
We may not call it that literal way because we use 9-3-1-Note, or purpose and intent.
Without 9-3-1-Note a dribbler stepping on an out of bounds boundary wouldn't be out of bounds.
9-3-1-Note: A player shall not cause the ball to go out of bounds. The dribbler has committed a violation if he/she steps on or outside a boundary, even though he/she is not touching the ball while he/she is out of bounds.
We need something like 9-3-1-Note for a dribbler stepping on a division line boundary on a backcourt violation.
Or just purpose and intent.