[Tap]

Greymule is correct, arc is 3 feet from release (which ends up being about 6 feet from ground usually) to 10 feet from ground.

As for count, what the rule book says -- and they way I call it -- is that batters start with 0-0 count. 3 balls is a walk and 2 strikes is a strikeout, with the batter getting a courtesy foul after already having 1 strike. Most players believe that you start with 1-1 in U-trip, and it gets tiresome explaining to players that this is not correct.

It definitely speeds up the game playing 3-2 or playing ASA's 4-3 starting with 1-1 count (with courtesy foul), as batters don't automatically take a strike and pitchers don't waste pitches.

[Edited by Tap on Sep 11th, 2003 at 03:01 PM]