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Originally Posted by BillyMac
... the player who ends his dribble, throws the ball off his backboard, runs several feet, catches it, and then dunks ... That's a travel.
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4-44-3: The pivot foot may be lifted, but not returned to the floor, before the ball is released on a pass or try for goal.
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Originally Posted by Nevadaref
Take a look at 4.15.4 Sit D.
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Are you saying that what I'm calling a travel violation (above) is not a travel? It also can't be an illegal dribble because of Fundamental 19:
A ball which touches the front face or edges of the backboard is treated the same as touching the floor inbounds, except that when the ball touches the thrower’s backboard, it does not constitute a part of a dribble.
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Originally Posted by Nevadaref
If the ball is caught in the air prior to contacting the floor, then the definition of a proper dribble has not been met and the player has dribbled illegally, which is a violation.
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Please explain further. How has the definition of a proper dribble not been met?
Interesting. Very interesting. You've got my attention. Let's explore this further.
Again, my play is this:
The player ends his dribble, throws the ball off his backboard, runs several feet, catches it, and then dunks.
I say that's a travel violation.
My rule citation is this:
4-44-3: The pivot foot may be lifted, but not returned to the floor, before the ball is released on a pass or try for goal.
Noting that it's not a pass, nor is it a try, nor is it a fumble.
Why is my play not a travel?
And why would this be an illegal dribble (not a travel) if the ball didn't hit the backboard (the player ends his dribble, throws the ball in the air, runs several feet, catches it, and then dunks)?
That's the key to changing my interpretation, which can be changed with further persuasion.
It looks like that what I'm calling a travel may really be an illegal dribble, that can't be an illegal dribble because of Fundamental 19.
I'm actually looking forward to having my interpretation changed because it looks like I have the minority opinion here, and there has to be a good reason why I'm all alone on the minority side.
It's lonely over here. Everybody is pointing at me, and making fun of me. I really want to join the "cool" officials on the majority side.