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Originally Posted by jamesshank
I'm not sure that is correct, because once the runner missed second, she could still go back and touch it before the appeal and is no longer forced to second once it becomes an appeal play. Someone more knowledgeable than me will hopefully come in.
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That would be Manny and he came in before you. :-)
That said, to help correct your confusion here's a quick primer:
there are two kinds of outs for purpose of determining if runs score
Force Plays and Timing Plays
Either kind of out may be recorded during regular play or on appeal.
Appeals of force plays are still force plays. The force play must be a force at the time of the appeal. No run scores when the third out is the result of a force out.
Runs that score before appeals of timing plays count unless the runner called out was ahead of a scoring runner.
Examples:
Bases loaded, 1 outs. Ball hit to the outfield and the runner from second is thrown out at the plate. The runner from first missed second and is called out on appeal. No runs score.
Bases loaded, 1 outs. Ball hit to the outfield and the runner from second misses third. The runner from first missed second and is called out on appeal. Then the runner from from second is called out on appeal. 1 run scores. (He wasn't forced to third at the time of the appeal).
Bases loaded, 2 outs. Ball hit to the fence for an in the park home run. The runner from first misses third and is called out on appeal. 2 runs score. (BR can't score behind the 3rd out).