Pass Interference on a Scoring Play?

[bandit7199]

What are the options for the offensive team when the defense commits a pass interference on a scoring play? Can the offensive team accept the penalty and enforce on the try or subsequent kickoff?

[footballref]

Yes, they can keep the points and apply the penalty to the try or kickoff

[chymechowder]

in NCAA, the penalty is declined by rule. only personal fouls or (live ball as) dead ball fouls can carry over.

You're saying in FED they can carry over a pass interference call?

[That fed code gets crazier and crazier each time I hear about it. ]

[Rich]

Originally Posted by chymechowder

in NCAA, the penalty is declined by rule. only personal fouls or (live ball as) dead ball fouls can carry over.

You're saying in FED they can carry over a pass interference call?

[That fed code gets crazier and crazier each time I hear about it. ]

It's been this way for a while, now.

Yes, the offense can take half-the-distance on the try or 15 on the kickoff.

[APG]

Originally Posted by footballref

Yes, they can keep the points and apply the penalty to the try or kickoff

Interesting...under NCAA and NFL rules, the penalty would be declined. Only personal fouls and unsportsmanlike conduct penalties can carry over.

[Welpe]

I came from a Fed state to an NCAA state. Imagine my surprise that there was no provision in NCAA rules to eject a coach unless he makes inentional contact with an official.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by footballref

Yes, they can keep the points and apply the penalty to the try or kickoff

Are you sure? FED is hokey sometimes, but not THIS hokey. Someone else confirm?

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

It's been this way for a while, now.

Yes, the offense can take half-the-distance on the try or 15 on the kickoff.

wow.

[whitehat]

yep, rule 8-2
this is the second year since the change i believe, and FED interpreters are still trying to simplify the language as to what can and cannot carryover to OT.
In short, basically all accepted penalties on B (if on A score would not count and replay down, unless Loss of down) on TD can carryover to try or KO but cannot carry over to OT. But anything with a succeeding spot (KO not defined as a succeeding spot) can. so a penalty on a try or a FG could carry over to OT period.
it's still a bit muddled...

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by bandit7199

What are the options for the offensive team when the defense commits a pass interference on a scoring play? Can the offensive team accept the penalty and enforce on the try or subsequent kickoff?

CANADIAN RULING:

Team A must decline DPI to keep the score. DPI is not enforceable on the convert or ensuing kickoff.

[Texas Aggie]

Imagine my surprise that there was no provision in NCAA rules to eject a coach unless he makes inentional contact with an official.

Actually, there is: its called a fight, though admittedly that would be very unusual.

under NCAA and NFL rules, the penalty would be declined. Only personal fouls and unsportsmanlike conduct penalties can carry over.

Can't speak to NFL, but ALL NCAA dead ball fouls (or live ball fouls treated as dead ball fouls) carry over; not just PF/USC. Plus, there's no specific provision for USC fouls -- if live ball, they fall under the rules governing all other live ball fouls. If dead ball, after the TD, then they conform to dead ball fouls.

I bring this up because there are too many that group USC and PF's together. They are NOT the same and have very different enforcement procedures (no auto first down for USC, for example).

Carryover for DPI is just dumb, in my view. Fed needs to change that rule. While DPI should be considered different than, say, holding, it isn't a personal foul and shouldn't be grouped similarly.

[Rich]

I know a lot of officials will hold the flag and will keep it in the belt if the catch is made.

I would rather my crew flag it -- I can't be responsible for a poorly thought-out rule, and a late flag when the pass is incomplete doesn't put us in the best light.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by Texas Aggie

Carryover for DPI is just dumb, in my view. Fed needs to change that rule. While DPI should be considered different than, say, holding, it isn't a personal foul and shouldn't be grouped similarly.

The Fed tries to simplify things like this so its' easy to enforce. What's easy? Penalize all B live ball fouls on a scoring play.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by Texas Aggie

Actually, there is: its called a fight, though admittedly that would be very unusual.

Sorry to take this further off topic but are you aware of any UIL exception allowing us to eject a coach for poor behavior? I'm not, of course, looking to eject anyone but it is a tool I'd like to have available if needed.

[BroKen62]

Originally Posted by Texas Aggie

Carryover for DPI is just dumb, in my view. Fed needs to change that rule. While DPI should be considered different than, say, holding, it isn't a personal foul and shouldn't be grouped similarly.

The FED rule is not limited to dpi. Any live ball foul by the defense can be accepted, the score still count and the penalty assessed on either the try or the subsequent kickoff. Also, any dead ball foul after the score and before the RFP, including fouls by A, can be carried over to kickoff. It's a screwed up deal, IMO. I wish we would go back to REAL football.