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Thu Sep 08, 2005, 09:48am
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Yesterday I was watching a match and a strange thing happened. Team A requested a sub, granted OK. Team B then calls for a time out, granted OK. Now here's where I got confused. At the end of the timeout, Team A requested another sub and had this sub granted. This was NFHS rules and I would like the opinions on whether or not this sub should be granted.
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Thu Sep 08, 2005, 11:18am
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"Each team is permitted only one request for substitution during the same dead ball".
It remains the same dead ball regardless of the timeout. The second substitution request should not have been allowed.
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Thu Sep 08, 2005, 03:04pm
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outathm, as Homer said, the second substitution should not have been allowed. 10-1-3 as he quoted is quite specific. The umpire goofed in this case by allowing the second sub at the conclusion of the time-out after they had already subbed at the beginning of the T-O.
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Jan G. Filip - San Jose, CA EBVOA Rules Interpreter Emeritus NCS Volleyball Officials Coordinating Committee Recorder CIF State Volleyball State Championships Referee (2005), Scorekeeper (2006-2007) & Libero Tracker (2010) PAVO State Referee (2014) / PAVO Certified Scorekeeper (2014) / PAVO Certified Line Judge (2012) USAV Junior National Referee (resigned 2013) / USAV National Scorekeeper (2014)
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Thu Aug 30, 2007, 12:54pm
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Subs on both sides
 MCBear. it is great to have someone with your credentials answering questions and adding important comments to these threads. Hope you continue to comment.
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UMP64 Thoes who cannot remember the past, are condemned to repeat it!
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Thu Aug 30, 2007, 02:12pm
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UMP 64, thank you for the kind words. They are greatly appreciated. However, I am not alone - I know that another excellent contributor is my good friend, Felix Madera.
In addition, there are many others who are astute and who share here.
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Jan G. Filip - San Jose, CA EBVOA Rules Interpreter Emeritus NCS Volleyball Officials Coordinating Committee Recorder CIF State Volleyball State Championships Referee (2005), Scorekeeper (2006-2007) & Libero Tracker (2010) PAVO State Referee (2014) / PAVO Certified Scorekeeper (2014) / PAVO Certified Line Judge (2012) USAV Junior National Referee (resigned 2013) / USAV National Scorekeeper (2014)
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Fri Aug 31, 2007, 06:48am
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Thanks!
It's *possible* the umpire might work NCAA volleyball, where by rule, that second sub was allowable because of the timeout in between requests for substitution, and got the rulesets confused.
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Felix A. Madera USAV Indoor National / Beach Zonal Referee FIVB Qualified International Scorer PAVO National Referee / Certified Line Judge/Scorer WIAA/IHSA Volleyball Referee
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Fri Aug 31, 2007, 08:56am
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not really me
The original poster in this thread is not really outathm. I was ahrd at work when hte thread was posted. Beware that when you leave a puter in a public setting you sign out.
The real OAH.
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Sun Sep 02, 2007, 06:00pm
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Scrapper,
I wasn't asking where, I was saying it was.
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Felix A. Madera USAV Indoor National / Beach Zonal Referee FIVB Qualified International Scorer PAVO National Referee / Certified Line Judge/Scorer WIAA/IHSA Volleyball Referee
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Mon Sep 03, 2007, 07:50am
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