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Zoochy Wed Oct 09, 2019 02:25pm

Serve Point? Or Side Out Point?
 
A-S1 steps on the line, then contacts the ball
B-S1 consumes more than 5 seconds before contacting the ball
C-S1 throws the ball into the air and the ball contacts the net of the 'vertical obstruction'
D-S1 contacts the ball outside of the serving area
E-S1 contacts the ball but the ball fails to pass over the net
F-S1 contacts the ball and the ball passes over the net OUTSIDE the antenna
G-S1 contacts the ball and the ball passes over the net WITHIN the antennas and lands Out of Bounds

For ALL of the above plays, Team R is Out of Rotation

What Team receives the Point?

ilyazhito Wed Oct 09, 2019 05:28pm

S receives the point. Whenever S faults, and R is out of alignment/rotation, S receives the point, by rule.

Middleman Wed Oct 09, 2019 07:43pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilyazhito (Post 1034820)
S receives the point. Whenever S faults, and R is out of alignment/rotation, S receives the point, by rule.

Not so fast.

A, B, C, and D are Illegal Serves and the point/Loss of Rally is awarded to R.

E, F, and G are Service Faults and the point is awarded to S.

bob jenkins Thu Oct 10, 2019 07:42am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Middleman (Post 1034822)
Not so fast.

A, B, C, and D are Illegal Serves and the point/Loss of Rally is awarded to R.

E, F, and G are Service Faults and the point is awarded to S.

Agreed (at least without looking at the book).

R is not "out of rotation" until the serve is legally contacted -- that didn't happen in A-D, so it's R's point.

And, R is out of rotation as soon as the serve is legally contacted, so the ball is dead and the rest of the serve (landing in the net / out of bounds, etc.) never happened. S's point.

chapmaja Fri Oct 11, 2019 12:44am

Quote:

Originally Posted by middleman (Post 1034822)
not so fast.

A, b, c, and d are illegal serves and the point/loss of rally is awarded to r.

E, f, and g are service faults and the point is awarded to s.

agreed


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