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Hyzepher Thu Aug 21, 2003 03:32am

In our league we have a pitcher who has only one arm (right) the other arm is intact from the shoulder to the elbow only (left). When pitching he traps his glove between his left arm and body and pitches with his right arm. Once the ball is released he puts on his glove.

Now, apart from the obvious health risk, is there any rule infringements?

Chris

IRISHMAFIA Thu Aug 21, 2003 06:31am

Quote:

Originally posted by Hyzepher
In our league we have a pitcher who has only one arm (right) the other arm is intact from the shoulder to the elbow only (left). When pitching he traps his glove between his left arm and body and pitches with his right arm. Once the ball is released he puts on his glove.

Now, apart from the obvious health risk, is there any rule infringements?

Chris

Speaking ASA

Infringement upon softball rules or the pitcher?

As far as softball rules, no. As far as the pitcher, there better not be. ADA is a strong article to fight.

Hyzepher Thu Aug 21, 2003 09:24am

Thanks

I just needed clarification in case it ever came up in a game.

Chris

DownTownTonyBrown Thu Aug 21, 2003 05:09pm

Test it out on him.
 
The person that brings it up and wants to complain....

Take a piece of rope/string and tie his hand up against his shoulder by passing the rope around his wrist and through his armpit...

And then say "Okay, let's see you do what he does. Then you tell me if he's gaining an advantage."

Smile big...:D

"I think he's okay. However, if you would like to even out the competition, we can leave you tied up during the game."

DownTownTonyBrown Thu Aug 21, 2003 05:11pm

Huh?
 
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Originally posted by Hyzepher
Now, apart from the obvious health risk, is there any rule infringements?
It's not so obvious to me. What is the health risk?

ChampaignBlue Thu Aug 21, 2003 05:40pm

"It's not so obvious to me. What is the health risk?"

If he doesn't get the glove transfered fast enough his nose and other parts of his anatomy could be at risk.

Seriously, the only thing that I could see ever come up would be dislodged equipment and shame on anyone that tries. As long as he does nothing intentional it shouldn't be an issue.

TexBlue Thu Aug 21, 2003 05:45pm

No Rule ........
 
There is no rule against it. You just gotta sdmire the guy for being able and willing to do it.

Uhhhhhm, the best example of this is in that ummmmmm, other sport. Rembember Jim Abbott. Played for the Angels for a long time? He did the same thing.

Rick

Skahtboi Thu Aug 21, 2003 07:10pm

There's a guy here in North Texas that has played the same way for years, and he is also a pitcher. I find it a very cool thing to watch him in action.

Rick Vietti Mon Aug 25, 2003 02:48pm

Just to throw this out there. Did a co-ed tournament last week and the first baseman was a woman who was (by my estimation) between 7 & 9 months pregnant (she defintely had a shelf).

No one said anything and she got a courtesy runner when she got on base but I was a little leary about her being out there. I do not think there is any ASA rule prohibiting, but it made me uncomfortable.

Anyone else run into this?

Dakota Mon Aug 25, 2003 03:29pm

No, but there is nothing that is (or should be, IMO) against this in the rule book. It is her body & her baby.

I was wondering, though, on what basis she was allowed a courtesy runner?

IRISHMAFIA Mon Aug 25, 2003 03:29pm

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Originally posted by Rick Vietti
Just to throw this out there. Did a co-ed tournament last week and the first baseman was a woman who was (by my estimation) between 7 & 9 months pregnant (she defintely had a shelf).

No one said anything and she got a courtesy runner when she got on base but I was a little leary about her being out there. I do not think there is any ASA rule prohibiting, but it made me uncomfortable.

Anyone else run into this?

I'm not a doctor and I'm not god. If she chooses to be playing ball, that is her decision and not my concern.

BTW, yes, I have had pregnant women play ball in games I've umpired. To me, she is just another player.




ChampaignBlue Mon Aug 25, 2003 04:17pm

"I was wondering, though, on what basis she was allowed a courtesy runner?"

On the basis that no sane person argues with a pregnant woman and the umps generally are the sane ones on the field.

CecilOne Tue Aug 26, 2003 07:46am

I guess that's true "courtesy", as opposed to resting the catcher, uncounted pinch runner, etc.

Dakota Tue Aug 26, 2003 09:34am

More like umpire survival than courtesy ... ;)

It just seemed a bit odd that on the one hand the legality of the player would be raised due to her pregnancy, but on the other hand, wink 'n' nod courtesy runners were allowed.

IRISHMAFIA Tue Aug 26, 2003 09:47am

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Originally posted by Dakota
More like umpire survival than courtesy ... ;)

It just seemed a bit odd that on the one hand the legality of the player would be raised due to her pregnancy, but on the other hand, wink 'n' nod courtesy runners were allowed.

I agree. It seems like the CR in this case would be a "league" rule which is permissible under ASA Rule 12.



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