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MD Longhorn Mon Apr 28, 2014 02:19pm
Another Defense-Aided HR trot
 
After giving up a homer, this pitcher carried her injured opponent around the bases - SportsNation - ESPN


I have obstruction, of course. :)

UmpireErnie Mon Apr 28, 2014 03:53pm
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Originally Posted by MD Longhorn (Post 932844)
How is it OBS? The defense aided the runner, they did not hinder! :)

nopachunts Mon Apr 28, 2014 04:26pm
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Originally Posted by UmpireErnie (Post 932878)
How is it OBS? The defense aided the runner, they did not hinder! :)
You need to get your sarcasm meter re-calibratered.

IRISHMAFIA Mon Apr 28, 2014 06:07pm
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Originally Posted by MD Longhorn (Post 932844)

IDK, there are probably a few umpires that would have had the 3rd base coach for assisting a runner when it looked like he may have touched her helmet.

But it is all still bullshit. Put a damn sub in and run the bases.

CecilOne Tue Apr 29, 2014 09:44am
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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA (Post 932904)
the 3rd base coach for assisting a runner when it looked like he may have touched her helmet.
Well, we needed a definition for OOO. ;)

MD Longhorn Tue Apr 29, 2014 11:58am
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Originally Posted by UmpireErnie (Post 932878)
How is it OBS? The defense aided the runner, they did not hinder! :)
LOL.

Ok, if we're playing that - the rule doesn't say hinder, it says impede. Had they not carried her, she would have stayed in the batters box. They impeded her ability to stay in one place.

Hypopathetical...

Pitcher and catcher lift the runner, carry her to first, second, and then at third don't lower her enough to touch third, and then carry her home. And then appeal the miss at 3rd. :) :) :)

UmpireErnie Tue Apr 29, 2014 01:48pm
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Originally Posted by MD Longhorn (Post 932974)
LOL.

Ok, if we're playing that - the rule doesn't say hinder, it says impede. Had they not carried her, she would have stayed in the batters box. They impeded her ability to stay in one place.
Fair enough it does say impede. But I would argue that the defense is not impedeIng since they are helping BR do what she wants to do: namely advance.
Hypopathetical...

Pitcher and catcher lift the runner, carry her to first, second, and then at third don't lower her enough to touch third, and then carry her home. And then appeal the miss at 3rd. :) :) :)
Now that's just mean!!
Seriously if the defense wants to allow the incapacitated BR to score IMO she should have a legal way to do so.

Dakota Tue Apr 29, 2014 01:58pm
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Originally Posted by UmpireErnie (Post 932985)
Seriously if the defense wants to allow the incapacitated BR to score IMO she should have a legal way to do so.
Mike gave the colorful answer above.

The fact is, these are feel-good stories the media fawns over, but in reality, the rules permit the offensive coach to enter a sub for the injured runner, who then completes the base-running.

Jake26 Tue Apr 29, 2014 02:07pm
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Originally Posted by Dakota (Post 932988)
Mike gave the colorful answer above.

The fact is, these are feel-good stories the media fawns over, but in reality, the rules permit the offensive coach to enter a sub for the injured runner, who then completes the base-running.
As I read the story, the defensive players understood the option available to the offensive team. They just thought the player hitting the home run, given her pre-AB physical circumstances, deserved the chance to touch all the bases - which make it an even more feel-good story for the media.

MD Longhorn Tue Apr 29, 2014 02:23pm
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Originally Posted by UmpireErnie (Post 932985)
Seriously if the defense wants to allow the incapacitated BR to score IMO she should have a legal way to do so.
You're right! They should!

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and they do.


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