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Old Wed Oct 23, 2013, 06:51pm
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If I'm your coach, that isn't going to fly, as it's simply not true.

I suspect I would say something more like - "Coach, he did not assist her in reaching the base - in my judgment she would have reached it without his help... if anything, he hindered her."

More than likely, this doesn't come up anyway --- and for the record, if I WAS the coach in this situation, I would not have approached you to ask about it anyway.
ASA 8.7 THE RUNNER IS OUT
E. When any offensive team member, other than another runner, physically assists a runner while ball is live.
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Old Wed Oct 23, 2013, 07:44pm
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I know D1 umpire that called batter out that hit an outa the park HR in a HS playoff game when teammates came out to celebrate and high-five. It cost that team a run, and they lost by one run.
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Old Thu Oct 24, 2013, 06:22am
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I know D1 umpire that called batter out that hit an outa the park HR in a HS playoff game when teammates came out to celebrate and high-five. It cost that team a run, and they lost by one run.
high five does not = assist
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Old Fri Oct 25, 2013, 12:18am
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Who said anything about assist?

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high five does not = assist
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Old Fri Oct 25, 2013, 06:23am
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Who said anything about assist?
Well, then that the hell did he call the runner out for?

Usually when this idiotic call is improperly made, it is because the umpire doesn't understand that in almost every code: 1) the ball must be live; and 2) contact between a player and coach does not, in and of itself, equal assistance.

Moreover, EVEN in NCAA, it isn't an out the first time anyway. It is a warning. So even if the NCAA umpire applied an NCAA rule in a high school game, he didn't even do that correctly.

I hope his partner stepped in to get the rule right.
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Old Fri Oct 25, 2013, 08:02am
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...Usually when this idiotic call is improperly made...
You imply that there is a proper way to make this idiotic call.
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Old Fri Oct 25, 2013, 12:57pm
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No one really knows. Even the partners still are unsure now. The announcer announced it was for over celebration, so perhaps unsporting behavior. Dunno, I was not there, and the scoop from partners were that umpires did not get together for the call, and no post-game, they each went straight to their cars afterwards. It was never discussed or brought up amongst them ever again AFAIK or was told.

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Well, then that the hell did he call the runner out for?

Usually when this idiotic call is improperly made, it is because the umpire doesn't understand that in almost every code: 1) the ball must be live; and 2) contact between a player and coach does not, in and of itself, equal assistance.

Moreover, EVEN in NCAA, it isn't an out the first time anyway. It is a warning. So even if the NCAA umpire applied an NCAA rule in a high school game, he didn't even do that correctly.

I hope his partner stepped in to get the rule right.
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