The Official Forum  

Go Back   The Official Forum > Softball

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old Sun Oct 20, 2013, 02:08pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Crete, Nebraska
Posts: 734
Send a message via ICQ to shipwreck
ball deflected off F1

NFHS rules. Can someone explain the reasoning (if I understand it correctly) the reason that a hit ball that contacts the pitcher and then goes to a place where another fielder could make a play, but the fielder is interfered with, interference is called since this is considered making an initial play, but if the ball hits off the pitcher and then strikes a runner it is nothing unless it is intentional? What do other rule sets say as far as this goes? Dave
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old Sun Oct 20, 2013, 03:58pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Woodstock, GA; Atlanta area
Posts: 2,822
As I understand it, the logic is that runners have to know that they have to avoid interfering with fielders in the act of fielding a batted ball; and the fielders are big enough to see, know where they are, and react to avoid as necessary. The fact that a pitcher may have touched the ball shouldn't change that; runners have to know know they have to avoid the fielders.

But the deflected ball may often be moving too quickly to avoid it; it has changed direction, and may not be avoidable. In that case, the runner shouldn't be penalized. Unless the runner intends to interfere, in which case the rule allows that to be penalized.
__________________
Steve
ASA/ISF/NCAA/NFHS/PGF
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old Sun Oct 20, 2013, 04:40pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: USA
Posts: 14,565
Quote:
Originally Posted by AtlUmpSteve View Post
As I understand it, the logic is that runners have to know that they have to avoid interfering with fielders in the act of fielding a batted ball; and the fielders are big enough to see, know where they are, and react to avoid as necessary. The fact that a pitcher may have touched the ball shouldn't change that; runners have to know know they have to avoid the fielders.

But the deflected ball may often be moving too quickly to avoid it; it has changed direction, and may not be avoidable. In that case, the runner shouldn't be penalized. Unless the runner intends to interfere, in which case the rule allows that to be penalized.
And what happens when the fielder quickly changes direction following the ball which changed direction and steps into a runner or his/her path and initiate's contact? That only problem I have is there doesn't seem to be any relief for a runner in such an event.
__________________
The bat issue in softball is as much about liability, insurance and litigation as it is about competition, inflated egos and softball.
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old Mon Oct 21, 2013, 06:31am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: The Land Of The Free and The Home Of The Brave (MD/DE)
Posts: 6,425
Quote:
Originally Posted by AtlUmpSteve View Post
As I understand it, the logic is that runners have to know that they have to avoid interfering with fielders in the act of fielding a batted ball; and the fielders are big enough to see, know where they are, and react to avoid as necessary. The fact that a pitcher may have touched the ball shouldn't change that; runners have to know know they have to avoid the fielders.

But the deflected ball may often be moving too quickly to avoid it; it has changed direction, and may not be avoidable. In that case, the runner shouldn't be penalized. Unless the runner intends to interfere, in which case the rule allows that to be penalized.
And a ball hitting the runner deflected off any fielder is the same, not just the pitcher.
__________________
Officiating takes more than OJT.
It's not our jobs to invent rulings to fit our personal idea of what should and should not be.
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old Mon Oct 21, 2013, 06:55am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: NY
Posts: 763
The post asks about the Federation rule. In Federation, as opposed to the entire rest of the softball world, does not require intentional interference on a batted ball that deflects off of the pitcher. NFHS 2-47-3a & CB 2-47-3-situation B.
__________________
Kill the Clones. Let God sort them out.
No one likes an OOJ (Over-officious jerk).
Realistic officiating does the sport good.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
interference on deflected batted ball shipwreck Softball 2 Wed Jul 06, 2011 03:29pm
Batted ball deflected out of play Dakota Softball 7 Tue May 25, 2010 03:25pm
Deflected batted ball interpretation reccer Softball 16 Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:00am
Deflected ball and interference WestMichBlue Softball 10 Tue Oct 18, 2005 06:33pm
Ball deflected out of play Duke Softball 2 Sat May 10, 2003 05:47am


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:38pm.



Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1