Nitty-Gritty

[Crabby_Bob]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Not if all the elements of the LBR being in effect are satisfied

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Nothing, other than "no pitch"

Indulge me, please. If we can call a runner out under the LBR in this situation, why wouldn't we allow the most favorable result for the offense if pitcher foolishly pitches through the stop sign? For example, a ball added to the count, or perhaps, a home-run if it's hit over the fence in fair territory.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by Crabby_Bob

Indulge me, please. If we can call a runner out under the LBR in this situation, why wouldn't we allow the most favorable result for the offense if pitcher foolishly pitches through the stop sign? For example, a ball added to the count, or perhaps, a home-run if it's hit over the fence in fair territory.

Because there is a reason you don't want them to pitch and it usually involves one or more of the three people in the path of the ball not being prepared for the delivery. Okay, two as if the umpire isn't ready, s/he shouldn't be behind the plate.

Or there may be a runner or coach not in position or prepared to play. If you are going to allow a home run when you directed the pitcher not to pitch, are you willing to call R1 out for being off the base because s/he wasn't given the opportunity to return?

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Because there is a reason you don't want them to pitch and it usually involves one or more of the three people in the path of the ball not being prepared for the delivery. Okay, two as if the umpire isn't ready, s/he shouldn't be behind the plate.

OK, if you mean literally "behind" the plate.
There are times when the ump has just handled a sub or return of an out of play ball or ... and the players are not paying attention.
It is easier to get the pitcher's attention with a raised hand than just being out of position.

I respect the advice to avoid it and agree saying play not needed except after an actual time out. There is an instruction in manuals and clinics about which hand to use, which lead me to believe it is legit. Of course, this forum is mostly advanced umpires, so better advice.