Florida-Nebraska

[IRISHMAFIA]

Well, that end really brings up the "about to receive" still in effect in NCAA softball.

[topper]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Well, that end really brings up the "about to receive" still in effect in NCAA softball.

Got nothing to do with the rule. Sorry Mike. Contact before the ball arrives = OBS in every code I know of.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by topper

Got nothing to do with the rule. Sorry Mike. Contact before the ball arrives = OBS in every code I know of.

No doubt, but if the ATR wasn't in effect, I don't think there would have been a question.

[Scooby]

She definitely blocked 3rd base and contact happened, before the ball arrived.

[first2third]

Even with the about to receive, I think we have obstruction at third on the last play. "The defensive player must be in the process of catching the ball and not merely positioning, waiting for a throw to arrive." Also just reviewed the about to receive part of the clinic on the SUP web site. The ball was NOT between the defensive player and the runner.

Now on the no touching of the bag at second, What would be the right move to get into position for that call? The ball was hit right at the umpires pre-pitch position. So, I think appropriately, he moves to the backside of second. Now out of position to see the foot, especially with the collision of shortstop and second baseman. I guess he could have tried to widen up, but tough with the ball coming at you.

Finally, is K zone off, is it just me, or are the zones of all the umpires wider than it should be on the outside corner?

[Scooby]

Originally Posted by first2third

Finally, is K zone off, is it just me, or are the zones of all the umpires wider than it should be on the outside corner?

No, I do not think that the K Zone is off. That pitch is easy for an umpire to call a strike. The catchers and pitchers want it and it is hard for the offensive coach to argue. It looks like a hitable pitch.

[first2third]

Originally Posted by Scooby

No, I do not think that the K Zone is off. That pitch is easy for an umpire to call a strike. The catchers and pitchers want it and it is hard for the offensive coach to argue. It looks like a hitable pitch.

So because it is "easy" to call and "catchers and pitchers want it", th question is should it be called?

[Scooby]

Originally Posted by first2third

So because it is "easy" to call and "catchers and pitchers want it", th question is should it be called?

No, the question was is the K Zone off?

[Rich Ives]

Nebraska ran the bases stupidly several times and played poor defense. The right team won.

"About to receive" looked close enough to me. Why was thunderfoot running toward the ball with two outs?

[Jake26]

Originally Posted by first2third

Finally, is K zone off, is it just me, or are the zones of all the umpires wider than it should be on the outside corner?

I have questions. Is that "small ball" supposed to represent the center of the softball? The seam of the ball is what is relevant in calling a corner, not anything else, so if it is the center, the "small ball" is irrelevant and misleading.

And how far off the plate does that gap between the edge of the plate and the "small ball" represent?

My understanding (Steve may be able to correct this) is that K-Zone at last year's WCWS was somewhat embarrassing to NCAA umpiring with so many (apparently) wide strikes being called. Thus, there was a major emphasis this year on tightening up the corners. I have not seen much difference this year though.

[Andy]

Originally Posted by Jake26

I have questions. Is that "small ball" supposed to represent the center of the softball? The seam of the ball is what is relevant in calling a corner, not anything else, so if it is the center, the "small ball" is irrelevant and misleading.

And how far off the plate does that gap between the edge of the plate and the "small ball" represent?

My understanding (Steve may be able to correct this) is that K-Zone at last year's WCWS was somewhat embarrassing to NCAA umpiring with so many (apparently) wide strikes being called. Thus, there was a major emphasis this year on tightening up the corners. I have not seen much difference this year though.

My understanding is that last year's WCWS umpires were told to tighten the zone and make sure that a good potion of the ball was over the plate in order to call a strike. Thanks to ESPNs K-Zone.

Completely contradictory to what the umpires call and is taught all year...

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Well, that end really brings up the "about to receive" still in effect in NCAA softball.

That was most definitely obstruction.