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AtlUmpSteve Fri May 31, 2013 08:20am
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Originally Posted by Manny A (Post 896125)
Separate but related to this subject, what do y'all call when the batter and the bat get hit by the ball virtually simultaneously? In other words, you hear the ball make contact with the bat, but you also see the batter react because the ball also hit her hand?

If the batter doesn't swing at the pitch, I usually give her the benefit of the doubt and send her to first base, judging that the ball hit her hand first. But if she does swing, what do you do? Do you assume the ball hit the bat first, and rule foul? Or do you call the dead ball strike?
To me, the sound is the best indicator. If I hear bat, it hit bat first. The hand hit makes a deadened "thud". When it appears "virtually" simultaneous, I know that the hand wrapped around the handle sticks out farther, so the hand must be closer to the pitch .......

Andy Fri May 31, 2013 10:51am
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Originally Posted by Manny A (Post 896125)
...Separate but related to this subject, what do y'all call when the batter and the bat get hit by the ball virtually simultaneously? In other words, you hear the ball make contact with the bat, but you also see the batter react because the ball also hit her hand?...
The same thing you do when the ball and the runner arrive at first base virtually simultaneously....make the call.

EsqUmp Fri May 31, 2013 03:14pm
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Originally Posted by Manny A (Post 896125)
Well, technically, you can't have both.

If you had said you had batters hit by the pitch while checking their swing, that would be more accurate.
No. That would be poor terminology. The batter isn't checking her swing. The batter is attempting to swing. The issue is whether the swing is completed.

MD Longhorn Fri May 31, 2013 03:43pm
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Originally Posted by EsqUmp (Post 896226)
No. That would be poor terminology. The batter isn't checking her swing. The batter is attempting to swing. The issue is whether the swing is completed.
Either way is bad terminology. You're right that "checking your swing" is coach-speak. But completing your swing is a non-thing as well.

All that matters is whether the batter was attempting to hit the pitch, or had abandoned that attempt, at the time the ball hit her. Whatever terminology you need to convey that - feel free.


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