Tracking Obstruction

[Manny A]

This is probably a pretty minor issue. But in NCAA play, when a fielder is guilty of certain types of obstruction, she must be issued a warning. A subsequent obstruction violation by the same fielder results in added penalties, even ejection.

My question: How is that warning recorded so that umpires can keep track? Does the BU who saw and called the obstruction inform the plate umpire to annotate on the lineup card? Or is this something the BU is supposed to maintain on a separate piece of paper?

I did a Juco DH a couple of weeks ago, and I had a first baseman who obstructed the BR as the BR attempted to round first base. I made the appropriate award, and informed her and her coach that she had her first warning. But then when I went back to my position, I thought, "I hope I remember that I gave her that warning," which made me wonder if I should have made sure my partner was aware.

[Big Slick]

Originally Posted by Manny A

This is probably a pretty minor issue. But in NCAA play, when a fielder is guilty of certain types of obstruction, she must be issued a warning. A subsequent obstruction violation by the same fielder results in added penalties, even ejection.

Absolutely false. The rounding and returning penalty will not result in ejection.
Ejection with (NCAA 9-4-4) Flagrant Player Obstruction.

My question: How is that warning recorded so that umpires can keep track? Does the BU who saw and called the obstruction inform the plate umpire to annotate on the lineup card? Or is this something the BU is supposed to maintain on a separate piece of paper?

If you read your CAA manual, it outlines the procedure. At the conclusion of the play, you call "time" and inform the team and the PU, who records the warning on the line up card. PU is required to record all warnings on the line up card.

[Manny A]

Originally Posted by Big Slick

Absolutely false. The rounding and returning penalty will not result in ejection.

I never said all subsequent violations result in ejections.

Originally Posted by Big Slick

If you read your CAA manual, it outlines the procedure. At the conclusion of the play, you call "time" and inform the team and the PU, who records the warning on the line up card. PU is required to record all warnings on the line up card.

Thanks; that's what I was looking for. I haven't been able to find my CAA Manual in a few weeks, so I couldn't refer to it.

[Big Slick]

Originally Posted by Manny A

I never said all subsequent violations result in ejections.

Then why mention ejection? A fielder who is commits multiple rounding and returning obstructions will never be ejected, at least for the obstruction. The penalty is one base beyond the protected base.

[MD Longhorn]

Hey, Big... he said, "is guilty of certain types of obstruction," How much clearer did he need to be?

[Big Slick]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

Hey, Big... he said, "is guilty of certain types of obstruction," How much clearer did he need to be?

Nope. He said:

But in NCAA play, when a fielder is guilty of certain types of obstruction, she must be issued a warning. A subsequent obstruction violation by the same fielder results in added penalties, even ejection.

A fielder is issued a warning for rounding or returning obstruction. That's the first sentence, which is technically an incorrect statement -- a warning is issued for only one type of obstruction (singular; not "types") . The second sentence refers to the first, particular type of obstruction, where there is an extra penalty in conjunction with the warning. The penalty for "rounding or returning obstruction" will never result is ejection. Ever.

A field can get ejected for obstruction, but a waring is not necessary, nor is it an "added penalty." Two different rules, two different effects.