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paparada Sun Jul 06, 2003 09:44am

I will be taking over as assigning secretary nexty year for my organization. I am constantly being told "we need to get more money for these games!" I believe that umpiring fees are market driven. In other words, the area and what the teams/leagues are willing to pay as well as the competiitions fees will determine the fee. We have umpires who state fees in other areas. I fall back on my belief that the market drives fees, not what we truly want. I would be interested if anyone is willing to share with me, and obviously everyone else, the fees you are paid. Please include:
1 your area,
2 the fee you are paid,
3 single game, double header, or more,
4 the age group,
5 the number of innings played,
6 any rules local/league rules that allow the game to be better for umps and players alike (ex. run rules per inning, no fouls after 2 strikes, etc...)
7 any info you feel is pertinent.

I realize I am asking alot. If you don't feel comfortable releasing this info fine, but please do not lecture me on the profesionalism of this question. As a profesional umpire, which is what we are, fees are a part of our profession.

Thank You
Paul


CecilOne Sun Jul 06, 2003 11:03am

Rec, not school, range depends on league:
SP
1 ump 21 - 23
2 umps 16 - 17
1 ump tourn 26
2 ump tourn 20
1 pitch tourn 22

FP
1 ump 32 - 35
2 ump 26 - 28

HS
V 58
sub-V 41

Area - mid-Atlantic

There was survey a few months ago, either here or on the NFHS board.

IRISHMAFIA Sun Jul 06, 2003 11:04am

Quote:

Originally posted by paparada
I will be taking over as assigning secretary nexty year for my organization. I am constantly being told "we need to get more money for these games!" I believe that umpiring fees are market driven. In other words, the area and what the teams/leagues are willing to pay as well as the competiitions fees will determine the fee. We have umpires who state fees in other areas. I fall back on my belief that the market drives fees, not what we truly want. I would be interested if anyone is willing to share with me, and obviously everyone else, the fees you are paid. Please include:
1 your area,
2 the fee you are paid,
3 single game, double header, or more,
4 the age group,
5 the number of innings played,
6 any rules local/league rules that allow the game to be better for umps and players alike (ex. run rules per inning, no fouls after 2 strikes, etc...)
7 any info you feel is pertinent.

I realize I am asking alot. If you don't feel comfortable releasing this info fine, but please do not lecture me on the profesionalism of this question. As a profesional umpire, which is what we are, fees are a part of our profession.

Thank You
Paul


I have no problem with you asking the question except that if you believe the rates are market-driven, what difference does it make what other markets demand?

ASA Championship play in Delaware

All games 2-umpire system, some 3-umpire system

FP $26 SP $22


JEL Sun Jul 06, 2003 11:20am

FP-$20 plate,$18 bases 90 min
SP-$14 plate,bases 60 min
FP tournament $25 plate,bases
2 ump system, midwest GA

chris s Sun Jul 06, 2003 11:51am

rookies and minors 32$..2 hour time limit, 7 runs per inning cept for 6th, unlimited scoring

majors 37$, 2 hour limit, no run restrictions

Monterey, Ca area

IRISHMAFIA Sun Jul 06, 2003 11:58am

Quote:

Originally posted by chris s
rookies and minors 32$..2 hour time limit, 7 runs per inning cept for 6th, unlimited scoring

majors 37$, 2 hour limit, no run restrictions

Monterey, Ca area

FP/SP?
Rookies describe umpires or players?

chris s Sun Jul 06, 2003 03:29pm

Quote:

Originally posted by IRISHMAFIA
Quote:

Originally posted by chris s
rookies and minors 32$..2 hour time limit, 7 runs per inning cept for 6th, unlimited scoring

majors 37$, 2 hour limit, no run restrictions

Monterey, Ca area

FP/SP?
Rookies describe umpires or players?

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FP girls only.....pre-rookies is 8u, rookies is 9-10's, minors is 11-12's and majors is 13-16's

ASA/NYSSOBLUE Sun Jul 06, 2003 03:54pm

Quote:

Originally posted by paparada
I will be taking over as assigning secretary nexty year for my organization. I am constantly being told "we need to get more money for these games!" I believe that umpiring fees are market driven. In other words, the area and what the teams/leagues are willing to pay as well as the competiitions fees will determine the fee. We have umpires who state fees in other areas. I fall back on my belief that the market drives fees, not what we truly want. I would be interested if anyone is willing to share with me, and obviously everyone else, the fees you are paid. Please include:
1 your area,
2 the fee you are paid,
3 single game, double header, or more,
4 the age group,
5 the number of innings played,
6 any rules local/league rules that allow the game to be better for umps and players alike (ex. run rules per inning, no fouls after 2 strikes, etc...)
7 any info you feel is pertinent.

I realize I am asking alot. If you don't feel comfortable releasing this info fine, but please do not lecture me on the profesionalism of this question. As a profesional umpire, which is what we are, fees are a part of our profession.

Thank You
Paul


SE NY State,less than 100 miles from NYC:

ALL 2 ump games: $30 per ump

Youth league single ump [5 run inning rule]: $35

If single ump shows they get $45

If league cancels <24 hrs for reasons OTHER than weather,they get charged FULL game fee[s]...

Small pieces of advice:

NEVER schedule ANY games w/o some kind of $$$ in your hand...and make sure the leagues have enough to cover rain-out make-ups,etc too...

Good Luck...make sure you have PLENTY of cell phone time..plenty of aspirin/advil/whatever...a VERY understanding spouse..and plenty of people who WANT to work!

ASA/NYSSOBLUE Sun Jul 06, 2003 04:09pm

Oh yeah in HS ball [just to be complete!]

Varsity $72

JV $56

what NY calls 'modified' [i.e. 7-8th grade] $49

Just curious here...who handles the school assigning for everyone here?
Ours is done by a body that is first and foremost handles the 'technical' training of our area youth,by providing training in the trades..each school district pools money and busses the kids to one central site....It also coordinates all the athletics in the area..they assign AND pay us..instead of waiting for each individual school to send checks....very easy to deal with...

Skahtboi Sun Jul 06, 2003 07:48pm

Quote:

Originally posted by paparada
Please include:
1 your area,
2 the fee you are paid,
3 single game, double header, or more,
4 the age group,
5 the number of innings played,
6 any rules local/league rules that allow the game to be better for umps and players alike (ex. run rules per inning, no fouls after 2 strikes, etc...)
7 any info you feel is pertinent.


1. North Texas, Dallas Metro Area
2. I only do FP. In area tournaments I get anywhere from $25-30 a game, two man mechanics. Same for Rec League play. For HS play, it is 30 a game plus mileage. (.30 per mile).
3. That fee is per game. No different based on the number of games called.
4. Mostly 14U through adult, though I have done some 12U and 10U.
5. HS Varsity is a seven inning game. All others are timed, ranging from 55 minutes to 75 minutes.
6. Some tournaments and most rec leagues use a 5 run per inning rule in this area. However, most tournaments are grab-all-you-can.
7. Nothing really, other than it is sure hot here this time of the year.

lildani14 Sun Jul 06, 2003 10:43pm

Small town Nebraska

Regular Season League Games 10s-18s
Plate - 20
Bases - 15

10s Tourny
Plate and Bases - 18

Thats all that I know of, other bigger tournys probably pay more.

CecilOne Mon Jul 07, 2003 10:11am

Try this thread:
http://www.officialforum.com/showthr...?threadid=8243

IHSAIllini Mon Jul 07, 2003 08:10pm

Here, the pay scale depends.

Pre-certified : maxed at $30 a game, depending on longevity
Certified: maxed at $40 a game, depending on longevity
State Licensed: maxed at $50 a game, depending on longevity

The assignor (league UIC) gets a lump-sum payment of $2,000 in addition to whatever games he/she umpires. (My job next year.)

The kids range from as young as 9-10 years to as old as 13-14.

Varsity/jv rates I don't know since I haven't started umpiring those yet, guess we'll see.

[Edited by IHSAIllini on Jul 7th, 2003 at 08:12 PM]

BigUmpJohn Mon Jul 07, 2003 11:15pm

Quote:

1 your area,
2 the fee you are paid,
3 single game, double header, or more,
4 the age group,
5 the number of innings played,
6 any rules local/league rules that allow the game to be better for umps and players alike (ex. run rules per inning, no fouls after 2 strikes, etc...)
7 any info you feel is pertinent.
1. Pittsburgh area specifically West Mifflin
2. SP $15 per game (mostly one ump, sometimes two depending, if two, same $15 for both)
FP $25 per game for plate and bases
3. Fee is per game.
4. SP: 9-10, 11-12, 13-15, 16-18
FP: 12U, 16U
5. 7 innings no time limit
6. SP 9-15 yr. olds: 6 run rule per inning, no foul tip third strike
SP 16-18 yr. olds: no run rule per inning, foul tip third strike
FP 12U: 6 run rule per inning
FP 16U: 8 run rule per inning
7. I hate rain.

ref5678 Mon Jul 07, 2003 11:27pm

IHSAILLINI what area of the state do you live in. Im from IL to and just curious


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