4th out appeal... or not?
Runners on 1st and 2nd, 1 out. The batter flies out to center, but both runners left before the catch. The runner from 2nd scores, and the runner from 1st is put out trying to reach 1st to end the inning. Everyone but the catcher is in the dugout when they realize they missed the appeal at 2nd. Catcher is standing by the dugout beginning to remove her shinguards. They rush back out and appeal. What's the call?
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The call is, "Run Scores; No Appeal allowed." Per ASA 8-7 Effect, and similarly in other rule sets, the defense loses its opportunity to appeal when "The pitcher and all infielders have vacated their normal fielding positions and have left fair territory on their way to the team area." |
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Sorry :o |
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I knew the answer, but was seeing if anyone would bite on the catcher, whose "normal position" is not in fair territory. |
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Appeals must be made: a. before the next legal or illegal pitch; b. at the end of an inning, before all infielders have left fair territory and the catcher vacates her normal fielding position; or c. on the last play of the game, before the umpires leave the field of play. |
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There is one thing missing from some (maybe all?) softball rule sets that you will find in baseball, and that's when the catcher (or another infielder) has to retrieve the ball from foul territory to initiate the appeal. In that case, the fielder is allowed to leave his "normal position in fair territory" and not be penalized. But that's the case because in those organizations, they don't recognize a verbal-only appeal. The defense has to tag the runner or the base to make the appeal. In softball, where verbal-only appeals are allowed, I don't believe an infielder chasing down the ball in foul territory is going to maintain her ability to appeal. At least I think that's the case. |
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