ASA - Infield Fly Rule
ASA 14U. R1 on 2b, R2 on 1B. I'm PU. Batter hits this little strange bloop over the Pitcher's head. Pitcher made no effort, ball lands about 4 feet in front of 2B. All runners advance one base. No one said anything. BU calls "Time".
Comes jogging over to me and tells me he had called "IFF". Nobody,including myself heard him-so I guess that part is irrelevant-but when he told me he called it, I replied "Thats not your call-it's my call". I got the I've been doing baseball for a gazillion years spiel and either of us can make the call. Since nobody heard him, there really was nothing to "fix", so after a discussion he went back to his position and away we went. My question I have is IF someone had heard him, am I obligated to accept his calling of the IFF, or could I have overruled him and placed the runners where I believed they would have ended up? |
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Second, if he had said it loud enough to be heard, I would enforce the IFF. I don't have my books handy, but I don't believe the book says that only the PU can make this call. It can be called by any umpire on the field. However, most officials believe this should be called by the PU and I agree. It looks better coming from the PU. I as the BU will hold my hand up in the air pointing at the ball to indicate to the PU that we have a possible IFF. I then let him/her make the call. Yes, I know this is not a by the book mechanic, but it's what I do. I had a similar situation this weekend during a college showcase. I am the PU. My partner is a quality umpire and part of my ASA association. We've been calling together for several years. Runners at 1st and 2nd (maybe bases loaded). Pop up on the infield over F6's head. My partner signals with his hand in the air as I would have done. I start to call it but then realize it is not a IFF because F6 had to keep going back for the ball. The ball kept sailing on her. It was not ordinary effort in my opinion and she did not catch the ball. Nobody heard me start to say Infield Fly, Batters Out. I never completed the sentence and put my hand down, as did my partner. I should say, that if they heard me or saw me with my hand up then they never mentioned it when I didn't make the call. |
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Is that ok, or a big taboo? |
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Either do nothing or call it..... |
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Chess - I think if anyone had heard your partner, you go with the IFF call. I agree that the PU should make the call, but either umpire can. There has been more than once where either my partner or I as PU has had a brain fart and not properly called the IFF, only to have it properly called by the BU.
I will also hold my hand up as the BU to indicate to my partner that it is a potential IFF and let them make the call. Nobody has ever told me that it is not acceptable. Often, the BU has a better look at the fly ball sooner to judge where the ball will come down. As the PU, the ball is flying straight away from you and it can sometimes be difficult to get the depth perception to determine if it will be a potential IFF. |
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Since I often work with less experienced umpires, it is not unusual for the PU to not make the IF call in a timely fashion and if it is a no-brainer, I will make the call from the bases. NOTE: "No brainer" means there is no question of ability for an IF to catch the ball or there is no question of ordinary effort. As the PU, I will take a glance at my partner for a possible indicator if there is a question. |
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The question was brought up about coaches questioning this as calling the batter out, and we were instructed to tell the coach that it was not an out call but an assist to our partner that we have potential for IF. I was looking up IF mechanics this past weekend and was looking for where it says the IF must be verbalized. About the only thing I found was in the description of an IF, and what happens when it's declared. Must we call it, or is it optional like some of my partners believe? Again, perhaps because of cross-pollination of various affiliations, including NCAA. |
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1. Teams should know the situation and their responsibilities. They should not be looking at the BU to see if his hand is up. They should be listening for a verbal. 2. If the PU/BU did not make the IFF call and they should have, this is correctable in ASA and FED. I don't know about NCAA. |
There are some softball umpire manuals that say the Infield Fly call can be made by either umpire.
There are others that don't spell out if the responsibility belongs to either one or both. ASA's manual does happen to say that this is the plate umpire's call. Did you mention to your partner that baseball is a different sport and that softball might have some different mechanics? :rolleyes: |
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