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IRISHMAFIA Thu Jun 28, 2012 07:44pm
Talking Heads At It Again
 
Morons doing PR v USA game noted the differences in international play by stating the batter must keep a foot in the batter's box.

Yeah, okay.

Steve M Thu Jun 28, 2012 08:20pm
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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA (Post 847731)
Morons doing PR v USA game noted the differences in international play by stating the batter must keep a foot in the batter's box.

Yeah, okay.
I think they've gotten their info from esqump. Sounds like it, anyway.

EsqUmp Fri Jun 29, 2012 06:27am
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Originally Posted by Steve M (Post 847732)
I think they've gotten their info from esqump. Sounds like it, anyway.
It's always nice when clones support each one another.

BretMan Fri Jun 29, 2012 07:12am
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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA (Post 847731)
Morons doing PR v USA game noted the differences in international play by stating the batter must keep a foot in the batter's box.
ISF doesn't have that requirement, right?

Wasn't sure if you were ragging on the TH's because they said this rule is different, when it's not, or because ISF doesn't have this rule.:confused:

CelticNHBlue Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:26am
Anyone following the games online at all? Sportzcast Player TH is an amateur, ok he's actually the Mass ASA Commissioner and good friend of mine. Still fun to follow along.

IRISHMAFIA Fri Jun 29, 2012 11:50am
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Originally Posted by BretMan (Post 847760)
ISF doesn't have that requirement, right?

Wasn't sure if you were ragging on the TH's because they said this rule is different, when it's not, or because ISF doesn't have this rule.:confused:
No, ISF does not have that requirement, but MLB rules do for NA leagues. :)

okla21fan Fri Jun 29, 2012 12:24pm
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Originally Posted by CelticNHBlue (Post 847776)
Anyone following the games online at all? Sportzcast Player TH is an amateur, ok he's actually the Mass ASA Commissioner and good friend of mine. Still fun to follow along.
He is doing a fine job.

(But I saw the plate blue clear a bat on a potential play at the plate. KR isn't going to like that :D)

umpire12 Fri Jun 29, 2012 07:06pm
clone support at its best,,,right mike? right bob..right jim?right mike..right pete?..right bob....lol..no wonder ASA is dropping the ball on many of its current interpretations...right mike?

Steve M Fri Jun 29, 2012 08:01pm
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Originally Posted by umpire12 (Post 847814)
clone support at its best,,,right mike? right bob..right jim?right mike..right pete?..right bob....lol..no wonder ASA is dropping the ball on many of its current interpretations...right mike?
So get it changed. Until then, you & Esq & others are just people to ignore. Nobody cares to listen to whining.

IRISHMAFIA Fri Jun 29, 2012 08:28pm
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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA (Post 847790)
No, ISF does not have that requirement, but MLB rules do for NA leagues. :)
And they just repeated it twice in the Aus/USA game stating that it is a new ISF rule that came in the past 2-3 years.

Yet, nothing in the 2010-2013 book

IRISHMAFIA Mon Jul 09, 2012 11:48pm
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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA (Post 847731)
Morons doing PR v USA game noted the differences in international play by stating the batter must keep a foot in the batter's box.

Yeah, okay.
Upon further review.

Even though it is not listed in the latest rule changes or included on the rules provided on line, the printed version of the ISF Rules does indicate that the batter must keep a foot in the batter's box between pitches (with the normal exceptions included in ASA), but there is no warning. The effect is an immediate strike on the batter, no pitch needs to be thrown.

However, even in the printed version, it is not included in the rules, but in what seems to be a Rules Supplement section and is highlighted as "Key Notes".

And here I thought NFHS & NCAA could be coy about where the insert rules/interpretations!!! :D

Gulf Coast Blue Tue Jul 10, 2012 02:52am
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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA (Post 848632)
Upon further review.

Even though it is not listed in the latest rule changes or included on the rules provided on line, the printed version of the ISF Rules does indicate that the batter must keep a foot in the batter's box between pitches (with the normal exceptions included in ASA), but there is no warning. The effect is an immediate strike on the batter, no pitch needs to be thrown.

However, even in the printed version, it is not included in the rules, but in what seems to be a Rules Supplement section and is highlighted as "Key Notes".

And here I though NFHS & NCAA could be coy about where the insert rules/interpretations!!! :D
No.....the horror......

Years ago when I got good at finding ASA rules.....I started NFHS......****....finding them all over again.

Then NCAA......****......

bsnalex Tue Jul 10, 2012 07:15am
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Originally Posted by BretMan (Post 847760)
ISF doesn't have that requirement, right?

Wasn't sure if you were ragging on the TH's because they said this rule is different, when it's not, or because ISF doesn't have this rule.:confused:
As far as I learned, ISF requires both feet to be completely inside the box prior to the start of the pitch (on the line is allowed) (4.3.c).

The batter is out "when his foot is completely outside the lines of the batter's box when he makes contact with the ball" - 4.6.d

IRISHMAFIA Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:27am
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Originally Posted by bsnalex (Post 848657)
As far as I learned, ISF requires both feet to be completely inside the box prior to the start of the pitch (on the line is allowed) (4.3.c).

The batter is out "when his foot is completely outside the lines of the batter's box when he makes contact with the ball" - 4.6.d
The discussion concerns the batter's position between pitches. The rules that are on-line at ISF's web site does not provide any direction in this area, but in the book it is noted at the beginning of the rules, but not within the rules.

Tru_in_Blu Tue Jul 10, 2012 02:46pm
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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA (Post 847731)
Morons doing PR v USA game noted the differences in international play by stating the batter must keep a foot in the batter's box.

Yeah, okay.
So they're not morons? At least as it applies to where a particular foot must be kept? :rolleyes:


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