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Old Tue Jun 05, 2012, 07:01pm
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Did I miss something in Game 1 of the Championship Series?

In the bottom of the second inning last night, the plate umpire allowed Alabama to enter their Flex player, Danae Hays, to run for Jackie Traina, the Alabama pitcher, after she led off the inning with a walk. (This is about the 40:30 mark of the ESPN3 replay.) This is clearly illegal, Amanda Locke being the DP for Alabama in the game.

In the top of the second, the plate umpire *had* properly allowed the entry of Oklahoma's Flex to run for their DP. This can be seen about the 28:00 mark of the ESPN3 replay.

Surely I am missing something.
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Old Tue Jun 05, 2012, 08:12pm
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Did I miss something in Game 1 of the Championship Series?

In the bottom of the second inning last night, the plate umpire allowed Alabama to enter their Flex player, Danae Hays, to run for Jackie Traina, the Alabama pitcher, after she led off the inning with a walk. (This is about the 40:30 mark of the ESPN3 replay.) This is clearly illegal, Amanda Locke being the DP for Alabama in the game.

Surely I am missing something.
Nope, Gametracker Box Score and Play-by-Play show it exactly as you stated.
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Old Tue Jun 05, 2012, 08:19pm
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Game Summary/Play by Play for Game 1 has the change exactly as you describe it.

Trying to figure out if I'm missing something here, because I can't see how Murphy could have done that change legally....and I just went to the rule book.
I'm sure that I'm missing something obvious but can't see what it might be.

OK...somebody help me out.
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Old Tue Jun 05, 2012, 08:22pm
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So do we have a situation that another esteemed member of the Forum would refer to as FUBAR?

Steve...you out there??

Jake26....good catch.
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Old Wed Jun 06, 2012, 05:25am
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I am betting on the actual line up card, Locke was listed as P and Traina as the DP which would have made the move legal.
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Old Wed Jun 06, 2012, 07:53am
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I am betting on the actual line up card, Locke was listed as P and Traina as the DP which would have made the move legal.
Hmm, I think you are right. GT has Traina as the P and Locke as the DP, but that may reflect the "game conditions" and not the actual lineup that was turned in. The defensive postion that ESPN ascribes to each batter as they come to the plate could easily be the same case, actual people on the field rather than the lineup card.

In fact, the more I think about it, this has to be the answer. Case solved.

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Old Wed Jun 06, 2012, 09:48am
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Hmm, I think you are right. GT has Traina as the P and Locke as the DP, but that may reflect the "game conditions" and not the actual lineup that was turned in. The defensive postion that ESPN ascribes to each batter as they come to the plate could easily be the same case, actual people on the field rather than the lineup card.

In fact, the more I think about it, this has to be the answer. Case solved.
Yep it is.
8.2.6.3, I just couldn't see the forest through the trees last night when I was looking through the rule book.
The lineup was presented as we saw it on Game Track, Murphy (in all likelihood) made the change during the pre-game meeting at HP, after the PU accepted the lineups as official and asked both HC's if they had any changes at this time. PU recorded & reported the change, but we don't see the 'transaction' it on Game Track.

Thanks for opening my eyes.
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