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USFA Tourney this weekend

Had a great time this weekend - 10 games over Sat/Sun.

Highlights: 10U centerfielder charges a ball, fires to first on a rope for the elusive 8-3 out. Batter drills the pitcher on the foot, ball goes straight up, pitcher goes down in pain, ball lands on pitcher and F3 dives for it, catching it just before it hit the ground. Yurout!

Lowlight: Solid 3-2 game, home ahead, visitor desperately trying to get 3 outs before time runs out. Partner signals me to watch the clock as we're down to seconds with 2 outs. Clock runs out as the pitch is in the air. Defense gets the out and partner calls ballgame. VC goes nuts - the new inning starts when the 3rd out is made. Yes, sir - but time was out before that - literally while the pitch is in the air. "Then why didn't you call ballgame?" "Coach, we're not going to call ballgame while a play is going on." Coach comes completely unglued, insisting that if time had expired we are REQUIRED to kill the play immediately. OK, whatever...

That said ... 10 games with only 1 coach outburst, and amazingly well behaved fans all around (in my games at least). A great time had by all.

(On another field, coach wasted the last 10 minutes of a POOL GAME trying to protest a judgement call. a POOL GAME! Good grief, glad that wasn't my game).

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Originally Posted by mbcrowder (Post 843840)

..10U ...Coach comes completely unglued...

Goes without saying... :cool:

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Originally Posted by mbcrowder (Post 843840)

Lowlight: Solid 3-2 game, home ahead, visitor desperately trying to get 3 outs before time runs out. Partner signals me to watch the clock as we're down to seconds with 2 outs. Clock runs out as the pitch is in the air. Defense gets the out and partner calls ballgame. VC goes nuts - the new inning starts when the 3rd out is made. Yes, sir - but time was out before that - literally while the pitch is in the air. "Then why didn't you call ballgame?" "Coach, we're not going to call ballgame while a play is going on." Coach comes completely unglued, insisting that if time had expired we are REQUIRED to kill the play immediately. OK, whatever....

One of my personal pet peeves, actually. Can anyone cite any softball manual which describes a mechanic to call "ballgame"? I don't know of one; and I don't believe any one has an approved mechanic to state "ballgame", and certainly don't believe the universally misused "end of quarter" football signal is appropriate nor approved.

The only rules that actually apply in ASA are the ones that state "no inning can start after ..." and that a new inning begins "immediately AFTER the final out of the previous inning.

So, to me, anyway, the appropriate mechanic is to walk off the field, while advising the coach that the time to start a new inning expired before the final out was made. Period.

Where abouts are they playing USFA? I didn't know that existed out this way.

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Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 843862)

Where abouts are they playing USFA? I didn't know that existed out this way.

USFA is based here (Houston area, at least). Steve G lives/works in Beaumont. This tourney was in Cypress at Dyess.

(And a PS to the above... only meant to say the CF in the first sitch was 10U.)

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Originally Posted by mbcrowder (Post 843867)

USFA is based here (Houston area, at least). Steve G lives/works in Beaumont. This tourney was in Cypress at Dyess.

(And a PS to the above... only meant to say the CF in the first sitch was 10U.)

mb,

I noticed the entry fee is quite low compared to ones in VA area. Are you guys still in the 20 dollar range for a game?

Thanks, Ron

PS. If you see Rodney Smith, say hi to him for me. If he draws a blank, just mention an issue about 5 dollars.
Thanks

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Originally Posted by ronald (Post 843880)

mb,

I noticed the entry fee is quite low compared to ones in VA area. Are you guys still in the 20 dollar range for a game?

Entry fees are low because the umpires are paid at the plate - the TD or the team running the tourney doesn't pay us.

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PS. If you see Rodney Smith, say hi to him for me. If he draws a blank, just mention an issue about 5 dollars.
Thanks

I normally only catch him at the clinics, but I will do so.

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Originally Posted by mbcrowder (Post 843840)

(Snip) (On another field, coach wasted the last 10 minutes of a POOL GAME trying to protest a judgement call. a POOL GAME! Good grief, glad that wasn't my game).

I just had occassion to register with USFA myself ($30. + $10. - for insurance - there was no option to decline)

Did you notice this 2010 "Major Rule Change?

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6007: Stalling: Umpire has a right to end a conference early if the umpire determines a coach is trying to stall a game. This call will not be questioned or appealed by a coach. Any conference or time out within the last 5 minutes of a timed game will result in the game clock being suspended until play resumes.

Any conference or time out within the last 5 minutes of a timed game will result in the game clock being suspended until play resumes. (This rules applies to any stoppage of play, be it pitching or other position change, coaching conferences, etc.)

We frequently receive feedback from frustrated coaches and parents stating that an opponent jumped out to a lead and then stalled the clock the remainder of the game. This rule was implemented by USFA in attempt to keep the game moving from start to finish and allow the players to get as much playing time in each game as possible...

Interesting

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Originally Posted by HugoTafurst (Post 843909)

I just had occassion to register with USFA myself ($30. + $10. - for insurance - there was no option to decline)

Did you notice this 2010 "Major Rule Change?

Interesting

Absolutely. A few years ago, stalling was rampant and led to nothing but outbursts from the offended fans. Now, the only timeouts we got down the stretch were necessary ones. And yes, I stopped the clock every time, and made sure I was visible while doing so.