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Out or Safe?
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No time to look up rule cites. :( If the ump judged the runner was off because of his own momentum, out ok. |
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I'd have a hard time calling a runner out on a play like that. Runner had the base and the only reason he lost contact with it was because he was physically knocked off it.
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But, to play devil's advocate a little bit, should his pop-up slide be considered and allow the out to stand? |
Just wondering, ....
Runner coming into second, F6 has the ball and is setup to make the easy tag..... Runner slides in (legally) and during the collision, ball is dislodged from fielder's posession. Safe or out? |
Copy and paste of what I posted on the SMSUA facebook page:
Looks ugly...both players are trying to make a play...no obstruction or interference. I think I just have a train wreck and go with the out. I'm open to being convinced otherwise, though. |
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It's not obstruction and there's no rule against it but the defense can't push a runner off a base to get an out. |
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Your point is that it is OK for the offense to cause the ball to dislodge by doing nothing more than running but it isn't OK for the defense to dislodge a runner from the base doing nothing more than attempting to make a tag? |
What Pop-up slide?
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Safe at second! |
Speaking ASA
IMJ, this is not a collision which was inherently caused by the lay-out of the field and manner in which the game is played. I would consult with the PU and utilize 10.1 to rule the runner safe. AFA the clip, you need to remember the league in which this occurred. And the TH was wrong, it was not a late slide, it was a well executed pop-up. |
I find it hard to accept that in a collision the runner must keep in contact with the base as his gained position is displaced. (this is what occurred in the video at 13 seconds. runner's foot touches the bag immediately followed by a tag on his lower shin followed by a collision that removed him from the base and altered his attained position).
I would not have an out at this time. |
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