B int?

tcannizzo · #1 (**permalink**) Wed Mar 21, 2012, 10:02pm

Had an interesting (at least to me) sitch tonight in a 12-U rec game.

B2 at bat with R1 on 2B with no outs.
B2 swings and misses, ball pops out of F2 mitt and lands in between the feet of B2 who has been standing still in the batter's box.
R1 takes off on the misplay by F2.
F2 goes for the ball under B2.
B2 backs away to allow F2 to get to ball laying still in the RH Batter's Box.
F2 picks up ball and then does not make a play on R1 who is headed to 3B.
So, no call.

BUT, what if F2 picked up the ball as B2 was giving way to F2 and in the process hinders F2 making a play on R1 at 3B?

What should be ruled here?
By the book we would have INT on B2, but really?

This is eerily similar to the OBS discussion in another thread (other board) about a defender's act that causes R to overrun base and subsequently gets put out. Similar from an affect point of view.

SNIPERBBB · #2 (**permalink**) Thu Mar 22, 2012, 09:01am

Under 7.4.4A fed case I would say no INT.

youngump · #3 (**permalink**) Thu Mar 22, 2012, 09:42am

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Originally Posted by tcannizzo

This is eerily similar to the OBS discussion in another thread (other board) about a defender's act that causes R to overrun base and subsequently gets put out. Similar from an affect point of view.

If a runner is obstructed in such a way that they overrun the base then I would rule that they were obstructed both before and after the base.

Andy · #4 (**permalink**) Thu Mar 22, 2012, 10:20am

If B2 is standing still in the batter's box, I've got nothing.

Once she starts moving around in there, however, she is at risk of committing interference.

"I was trying to get out of the way" is not good enough to avoid an interference call.

x-tremeump · #5 (**permalink**) Thu Mar 22, 2012, 07:53pm

At the 12U I have nothing, with the OP. I did have the same play @ a higher level when F2 threw the ball right into the Batter attempting to throw to F5, now I have Batter INT.

ronald · #6 (**permalink**) Thu Mar 22, 2012, 08:54pm

why does the age group and/or level come into play. this is interference, as described and as andy pointed out. i gave up on capital letters for at least today.

DRJ1960 · #7 (**permalink**) Thu Mar 22, 2012, 09:08pm

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Originally Posted by xtreamump

At the 12U I have nothing, with the OP. I did have the same play @ a higher level when F2 threw the ball right into the Batter attempting to throw to F5, now I have Batter INT.

What was the batter doing to earn the int call? Just curious.

Andy · #8 (**permalink**) Fri Mar 23, 2012, 10:09am

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Originally Posted by DRJ1960

What was the batter doing to earn the int call? Just curious.

The batter has the right to remain in the batter's box to attempt to hit the ball and any movement associated with that action. Once the batter starts doing something else, the "protection" of being in the box goes away.

As described, this batter was moving to try to get out of the way of the catcher trying to retrieve the ball and make a play on an advancing runner. Unless the umpire determines that the catcher intentionally threw the ball at the batter, the batter's actions of moving out of the way can be considered an act of interference.

x-tremeump · #9 (**permalink**) Fri Mar 23, 2012, 10:06pm

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Originally Posted by xtreamump

At the 12U I have nothing, with the OP. I did have the same play @ a higher level when F2 threw the ball right into the Batter attempting to throw to F5, now I have Batter INT.

The OP I have nothing, Pitched ball on ground with R1 on 2B @ the B1's feet, F2 picks up the ball and knows that she can not throw out R1 throws the ball anyway to F5 and hits the B1 with the throw to F5. Is that CLEAR NOW. I do not speak as well as you perfect people. I have Batter Interference. You tell me what you have. Or maybe I will have to more clearly explain my attempt to get involved.