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RKBUmp Thu Mar 08, 2012 06:14pm

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Originally Posted by Tex (Post 830912)
rwest, based on your question with an "initial play" within a step and a reach, you have an out for interference per rule.

As has already been mentioned, FED 8-8-6 The runner is not out when a runner is hit with a fair batted ball after it touches, or is touched by any fielder, including the pitcher, and the runner could not avoid contact with the ball.

argodad Fri Mar 09, 2012 09:21am

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Originally Posted by RKBUmp (Post 830826)
I feel your pain, after the last 2 HS games Ive worked I also wonder how some of these guys are "certified" HS umpires.

As for the step and reach in FED, if the fielder deflects the ball into the path of the runner, and the runner could not avoid the ball, step and reach does not apply.

In Florida, you can miss 12 out of 50 questions and still call HS varsity games. Other states are equally lax. Most of us take great pride in knowing and understanding the rules ... but certification as an NFHS umpire at the minimum level means that the individual really doesn't know the rule book very well. :mad:

RKBUmp Fri Mar 09, 2012 09:53am

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Originally Posted by argodad (Post 831013)
In Florida, you can miss 12 out of 50 questions and still call HS varsity games. Other states are equally lax. Most of us take great pride in knowing and understanding the rules ... but certification as an NFHS umpire at the minimum level means that the individual really doesn't know the rule book very well. :mad:

AZ requires 90% or better to be "certified" to call varsity games and the test is 100 questions. But, umpiring is knowing more than just how to read the rule book.

Rich Ives Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:08am

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Originally Posted by mbcrowder (Post 830824)
The rules for a batted ball striking a runner are not the same as baseball in all cases, but in THIS case, they are - your runner should not be out.

True because it was deflected.

Skahtboi Fri Mar 09, 2012 11:12am

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Originally Posted by argodad (Post 831013)
In Florida, you can miss 12 out of 50 questions and still call HS varsity games. Other states are equally lax. Most of us take great pride in knowing and understanding the rules ... but certification as an NFHS umpire at the minimum level means that the individual really doesn't know the rule book very well. :mad:

In Texas, umpires who belong to a UIL chapter are allowed to miss only 5 questions (make a 90%), to be eligible to call HS varsity.

On part 2 of the test, you have to make a 90 or higher to be able to call playoffs. Part 2 only has 25 questions. (Ergo, you are only allowed to miss 2 on it.)

Welpe Fri Mar 09, 2012 11:34am

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Originally Posted by Skahtboi (Post 831038)
In Texas, umpires who belong to a UIL chapter are allowed to miss only 5 questions (make a 90%), to be eligible to call HS varsity.

On part 2 of the test, you have to make a 90 or higher to be able to call playoffs. Part 2 only has 25 questions. (Ergo, you are only allowed to miss 2 on it.)

Does it work like basketball where the tests are open book and you can take them as many times as needed to reach the 90%?

Skahtboi Fri Mar 09, 2012 02:56pm

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Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 831046)
Does it work like basketball where the tests are open book and you can take them as many times as needed to reach the 90%?

It is open book. I cannot remember how many times you get for the first test, but there are retake chances. The second test you get three tries, and that is all. If you don't make 90 (92 actually) in three tries, then you don't work playoffs.


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