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MD Longhorn Wed Mar 07, 2012 03:59pm
Lrambf
 
"On the first play/throw on the infield after the ball is hit, if a thrown ball is not caught or is mishandled by the receiving defensive player, the batter/runner and all other runner(s) will be permitted to advance at their own risk no more than one extra base beyond the one that they are advancing to, if no additional play is made on the runner(s). The one extra base rule will be governed by the position of the runner(s) at the time of the throw. Should the defensive team make a subsequent play on the runner(s) during the advancement, the initial one extra base limit will be removed and the runner(s) may advance further at their own risk."

So ... if the fielder CATCHES the ball and does not mishandle it, the runners can run all they want, right?

"The ball is declared DEAD and all play is suspended when:
i. The pitcher enters the pitcher’s circle with the ball in her possession
ii. OR if an overthrow occurs returning the ball to the pitcher, who has BOTH feet within the pitcher’s circle AND the ball CROSSES THE PLANE of the pitcher’s circle"

So ... if the pitcher CATCHES the ball that is thrown to her, the ball is not declared dead, right?

IRISHMAFIA Wed Mar 07, 2012 05:53pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by mbcrowder (Post 830603)
"On the first play/throw on the infield after the ball is hit, if a thrown ball is not caught or is mishandled by the receiving defensive player, the batter/runner and all other runner(s) will be permitted to advance at their own risk no more than one extra base beyond the one that they are advancing to, if no additional play is made on the runner(s). The one extra base rule will be governed by the position of the runner(s) at the time of the throw. Should the defensive team make a subsequent play on the runner(s) during the advancement, the initial one extra base limit will be removed and the runner(s) may advance further at their own risk."

So ... if the fielder CATCHES the ball and does not mishandle it, the runners can run all they want, right?

"The ball is declared DEAD and all play is suspended when:
i. The pitcher enters the pitcher’s circle with the ball in her possession
ii. OR if an overthrow occurs returning the ball to the pitcher, who has BOTH feet within the pitcher’s circle AND the ball CROSSES THE PLANE of the pitcher’s circle"

So ... if the pitcher CATCHES the ball that is thrown to her, the ball is not declared dead, right?
You must have missed something. I don't see a "T" for Texas in the subject line ;)

x-tremeump Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:51pm
xtreamump
 
The F1 must have Control of the ball, not Possession.. For the LBR 8-7-T.

IRISHMAFIA Wed Mar 07, 2012 11:15pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by xtreamump (Post 830664)
The F1 must have Control of the ball, not Possession.. For the LBR 8-7-T.
I don't think the reference is ASA. However, ASA does say possession and control which for their interpretation, the two are somewhat synonymous.

In other organizations, simply having the ball being held on the body (under arm, between knees, etc.) is acceptable where ASA requires the pitcher to actually control the ball in the hand(s) and/or glove.

EsqUmp Thu Mar 08, 2012 07:50am
Quote:
Originally Posted by mbcrowder (Post 830603)
"On the first play/throw on the infield after the ball is hit, if a thrown ball is not caught or is mishandled by the receiving defensive player, the batter/runner and all other runner(s) will be permitted to advance at their own risk no more than one extra base beyond the one that they are advancing to, if no additional play is made on the runner(s). The one extra base rule will be governed by the position of the runner(s) at the time of the throw. Should the defensive team make a subsequent play on the runner(s) during the advancement, the initial one extra base limit will be removed and the runner(s) may advance further at their own risk."
It's helpful to say what you are quoting.

MD Longhorn Thu Mar 08, 2012 08:52am
Quote:
Originally Posted by EsqUmp (Post 830685)
It's helpful to say what you are quoting.
I did. But hey, if the language is not understood, it's the fault of the reader, not the writer, right?:rolleyes:

MD Longhorn Thu Mar 08, 2012 08:53am
Quote:
Originally Posted by xtreamump (Post 830664)
the f1 must have control of the ball, not possession.. For the lbr 8-7-t.
ok...

Umpteenth Thu Mar 08, 2012 09:08am
Quote:
Originally Posted by EsqUmp (Post 830685)
It's helpful to say what you are quoting.
If you would take the time to read threads and comprehend the entire thread, perhaps you wouldn't stick your foot in your mouth. It was clearly stated that this pertains to Local Rules.

I now return you to ignore.

HugoTafurst Thu Mar 08, 2012 09:45am
Quote:
Originally Posted by Umpteenth (Post 830694)
If you would take the time to read threads and comprehend the entire thread, perhaps you wouldn't stick your foot in your mouth. It was clearly stated that this pertains to Local Rules.

I now return you to ignore.
Not that I really want to get involved in this pissing contest, but for the record, I have to ask, exactly where did it clearly state that this pertains to local rules?

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Lrambf

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"On the first play/throw on the infield after the ball is hit, if a thrown ball is not caught or is mishandled by the receiving defensive player, the batter/runner and all other runner(s) will be permitted to advance at their own risk no more than one extra base beyond the one that they are advancing to, if no additional play is made on the runner(s). The one extra base rule will be governed by the position of the runner(s) at the time of the throw. Should the defensive team make a subsequent play on the runner(s) during the advancement, the initial one extra base limit will be removed and the runner(s) may advance further at their own risk."

So ... if the fielder CATCHES the ball and does not mishandle it, the runners can run all they want, right?

"The ball is declared DEAD and all play is suspended when:
i. The pitcher enters the pitcher’s circle with the ball in her possession
ii. OR if an overthrow occurs returning the ball to the pitcher, who has BOTH feet within the pitcher’s circle AND the ball CROSSES THE PLANE of the pitcher’s circle"

So ... if the pitcher CATCHES the ball that is thrown to her, the ball is not declared dead, right?
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Personally, I stayed out of this thread because from the begining (starting with the title - and continuing with the run-on sentence), I couldn't figure out what the point was!!

JMO

MD Longhorn Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:33am
Quote:
Originally Posted by HugoTafurst (Post 830700)
Not that I really want to get involved in this pissing contest, but for the record, I have to ask, exactly where did it clearly state that this pertains to local rules?
I'm not the first to use the acronym...

Local Rules Are Made By Fools.

HugoTafurst Thu Mar 08, 2012 11:10am
Quote:
Originally Posted by mbcrowder (Post 830711)
I'm not the first to use the acronym...

Local Rules Are Made By Fools.
Thanks for clearing that up...

Like I said, I'll stay out of the pissing contest otherwise..:D

EsqUmp Thu Mar 08, 2012 01:23pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by mbcrowder (Post 830691)
I did. But hey, if the language is not understood, it's the fault of the reader, not the writer, right?:rolleyes:
Where?

pob14 Thu Mar 08, 2012 07:26pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by mbcrowder (Post 830711)
I'm not the first to use the acronym...

Local Rules Are Made By Fools.
Thank goodness! Before I reached this post, I thought I was having a stroke.

x-tremeump Thu Mar 08, 2012 09:44pm
xtreamump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mbcrowder (Post 830692)
ok...
"ok... What ? I am trying to follow but it is very "MUDDY".

MD Longhorn Fri Mar 09, 2012 09:06am
Quote:
Originally Posted by xtreamump (Post 830952)
"ok... What ? I am trying to follow but it is very "MUDDY".
I have no idea why you brought up the LBR, no offense.


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