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MD Longhorn Wed Feb 29, 2012 09:01am

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Originally Posted by EsqUmp (Post 828679)
Why did an umpire who didn't make the call address the coach? I would expect an NCAA umpire to know better.

Huh? You expect the coach to ask the BASE umpire about a ball possibly hitting the batter in the batters box? That makes no sense.

EsqUmp Wed Feb 29, 2012 11:36am

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbcrowder (Post 828756)
Huh? You expect the coach to ask the BASE umpire about a ball possibly hitting the batter in the batters box? That makes no sense.

No, I don't. That's what I have been saying in the posts.


Unless I am missing something I think it was quite clear that the coach shouldn't be talking to the base umpire.

MD Longhorn Wed Feb 29, 2012 01:59pm

I see the clarification now. Too many pronouns. My bad, and my apologies.

x-tremeump Wed Feb 29, 2012 05:28pm

xtreamump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mbcrowder (Post 828819)
i see the clarification now. Too many pronouns. My bad, and my apologies.

nice

Sapper33 Thu Mar 01, 2012 11:24am

My apologies...
 
The coach didn't just come out to me as the Base ump..he did ask the plate ump if he would see if I had anything different. The coach at no time addressed me...but, of course we did hear the "they just want to get out of hear" whining from the crowd...:)

KJUmp Thu Mar 01, 2012 12:52pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sapper33 (Post 829074)
The coach didn't just come out to me as the Base ump..he did ask the plate ump if he would see if I had anything different. The coach at no time addressed me...but, of course we did hear the "they just want to get out of hear" whining from the crowd...:)

Sapper....just so I'm clear on your sitch, so at that point did the PU get together with you away from the HC to see if you had anything different on the play?

Sapper33 Thu Mar 01, 2012 01:03pm

Yes sir...
 
that is correct

x-tremeump Thu Mar 01, 2012 04:16pm

xtreamump
 
This is a Dead Horse. However I will say this. At the 12U JO B Eastern National Championship Semi Final game in York, Pa. last year, my daughter had played about 15 games in 100 degree heat. She was at bat & hit the ball, everyone in the stadium saw a little dribbler to the F5 who made a throw th F3. My Daughter in the "Heat" of the moment ran about 4 steps to 1B, then felt the pain in her left shin where the batted ball hit her, she then fell to the ground in PAIN. Me as her Dad could tell that she was hit by the batted ball. As an Umpire she was out.

KJUmp Thu Mar 01, 2012 06:24pm

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Originally Posted by Sapper33 (Post 829102)
that is correct

Then your crew handled it perfectly......just like the NCAA manual suggests/recommends when dealing with the type of sitch that occurred with the HC in your game.
Nice job by you and your PU.

MrRabbit Thu Mar 01, 2012 06:38pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by xtreamump (Post 829167)
This is a Dead Horse. However I will say this. At the 12U JO B Eastern National Championship Semi Final game in York, Pa. last year, my daughter had played about 15 games in 100 degree heat. She was at bat & hit the ball, everyone in the stadium saw a little dribbler to the F5 who made a throw th F3. My Daughter in the "Heat" of the moment ran about 4 steps to 1B, then felt the pain in her left shin where the batted ball hit her, she then fell to the ground in PAIN. Me as her Dad could tell that she was hit by the batted ball. As an Umpire she was out.

I will play the straight guy here...
By the post I take it she is right handed?
Where was she when the ball hit her?

7in60 Thu Mar 01, 2012 08:04pm

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Originally Posted by mbcrowder (Post 828414)
I guess the question is --- if you didn't SEE it hit body or bat - but you otherwise KNOW it hit something, do YOU make the call?

Not within the Earth's gravitational pull. Doing 1 umpire SP games, often a ball that is hit in front of home plate changes direction. If I don't see it hit the batter, I credit topspin, call it fair emphatically and it's up to the defense to make a play. When the play is questioned, as opposed to argued, I tell them "it's just me tonight and I call what I see...or don't see".

I don't like making calls based on players' reactions because there are some good actors out there.

x-tremeump Thu Mar 01, 2012 10:35pm

xtreamump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MrRabbit (Post 829197)
I will play the straight guy here...
By the post I take it she is right handed?
Where was she when the ball hit her?

Mr. Rabbit "Straight Guy" ?
Right handed batter, hit by batted ball while in batters box ?

MrRabbit Fri Mar 02, 2012 12:11am

Right handed batter, hit by batted ball while in batters box ?[/QUOTE]

So you are saying that the ball that she hit, hit her while she was still in the batters box, became a little dribbler to F5 and as an umpire you would call her out.

MrRabbit Fri Mar 02, 2012 12:17am

Right handed batter, hit by batted ball while in batters box ?[/QUOTE]

So you are saying that the ball that she hit, hit her while she was still in the batters box, became a little dribbler to F5 and as an umpire you would call her out.

x-tremeump Fri Mar 02, 2012 08:20am

xtreamump.
 
Me as her Dad could tell that she was hit by the batted ball. As an Umpire she was out. (OP)

The PU called the ball fair, the BU called the BR (My Daughter) out. What I was trying to say is that everyone in the STADIUM saw a fair ball {Even me}.
After the game I asked (My Daughter) what happened & she told me that the ball hit her. I AM POSITIVE THAT THIS HOARSE IS DEAD MR. Rabbit


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