the "DP"????

chris s · #1 (**permalink**) Thu May 29, 2003, 04:53pm

Saw this while watching the WCWS, the Oklahoma-Bama game on ESPN, they showed the defensive lineup and one women was listed as a "DP", plus, there was no F4 listed(maybe a screw-up by ESPN)...appeared(but not verified) to be maybe a "DH"???? Inquiring mind wants to know!!

Rachel · #2 (**permalink**) Thu May 29, 2003, 07:37pm

F4 was the defensive player. In NCAA it is called the TP. The DP bats for them and also can play defense for the other players. If they play defense for the TP it is a substitution. Thats why it is a DP and not a DH. I high school (in my state) the defensive player is called a FLEX, and in ASA they are called the DEFO. It is pretty much the same rule however.

chris s · #3 (**permalink**) Thu May 29, 2003, 09:18pm

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Originally posted by Rachel
F4 was the defensive player. In NCAA it is called the TP. The DP bats for them and also can play defense for the other players. If they play defense for the TP it is a substitution. Thats why it is a DP and not a DH. I high school (in my state) the defensive player is called a FLEX, and in ASA they are called the DEFO. It is pretty much the same rule however.

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Now can you explain this to me?? I am just a dumb BB guy, softball is picking my brain as my 12 year old is really stepping up this year and kicking some proverbial butt. This "DP" sounds like the many nuances of the NCAA "DH" mens rule(that one is very crazy!!)
Thanks in advance

Jason A · #4 (**permalink**) Thu May 29, 2003, 09:30pm

DP is the batter for the DEFO (OR TP), but has the right to play in the field for anyone at anytime. As long as the DP and DEFO are never in the lineup (actually batting) at the same time, everything is good.

either can be substituted for and the DEFO can also bat (considered a substitution) for the DP.

It's all good baby.

chris s · #5 (**permalink**) Thu May 29, 2003, 09:46pm

Explain the terms!!!! DP, etc... what the hell they stand for!!!!

Dakota · #6 (**permalink**) Thu May 29, 2003, 10:17pm

In ASA, DP = Designated Player; DEFO = Defense Only.

On this web site, Gulf Coast Blue Handouts are two papers on the ASA DP/DEFO rule, which is basically the same as the NFHS Flex rule and the NCAA DP/TP rule. One of these articles was written by SteveM and the other by me.

Read them & check back here if you have more questions.

Trust me ... the rule is actually pretty simple; it just seems complex at first.

zoomie · #7 (**permalink**) Fri May 30, 2003, 08:13am

wow thats a handy rule.