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alabamabluezebra Tue May 20, 2003 09:46pm

I had an assistant coach on a local team that loves to question rule interpretations. I was the PU and after his team completed their turn at bat, he asked me why I didn't invoke the infield fly rule when the pitcher caught a high fly ball. I told him I did last inning. He said "No, this inning". I said "There was no infield fly rule situation". He said " Yes, on the first out of the inning". I aked him how many runners were on base. He said "One, the runner on first". I explained to him that the infield fly rule was only in effect with less than two outs, with runners on 1st and 2nd, or with the bases loaded. He took two steps and said "You wanna bet a coke on it?" I said "how about $100?" I hated that I didn't have my rule book handy. He never came back by after our conversation. Go figure.

SamNVa Wed May 21, 2003 07:16am

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Originally posted by alabamabluezebra
He took two steps and said "You wanna bet a coke on it?" I said "how about $100?" I hated that I didn't have my rule book handy. He never came back by after our conversation. Go figure.
Now that's a good reason to carry a rule book onto the field. :D

SamC

IRISHMAFIA Wed May 21, 2003 12:02pm

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Originally posted by SamNVa
Quote:

Originally posted by alabamabluezebra
He took two steps and said "You wanna bet a coke on it?" I said "how about $100?" I hated that I didn't have my rule book handy. He never came back by after our conversation. Go figure.
Now that's a good reason to carry a rule book onto the field. :D

SamC

DON'T START!!!

kellerumps Wed May 21, 2003 01:14pm

In our gear bags, we always have a copy of the ASA, NF, and NCAA rulebooks. Further, we keep last years books in our cars.

busher63 Wed May 21, 2003 02:11pm

I agree with keller, I may be a first year umpire, but I played C -B softball for better than 20 years. Keep a copy of your rule book nearby. I remeber seeing an umpire one time that kept some type of bag clipped to the fence with extra balls AND a rule book. Still trying to find one of those bags :)

alabamabluezebra Wed May 21, 2003 02:59pm

This is the same assistant coach that likes to start rebuttals by say "I have managed or coached youth sports for the last seven years and you're the first umpire to...". You can add the next phrase like "call an illegal pitch on this pitcher", "require a player to remove her jewelry", "call interference without contact", "call a girl out for slinging a bat", etc.

I guess I am the only umpire that follows the rules. ;)

Elaine "Lady Blue" Wed May 21, 2003 04:06pm

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Originally posted by alabamabluezebra
This is the same assistant coach that likes to start rebuttals by say "I have managed or coached youth sports for the last seven years and you're the first umpire to...". You can add the next phrase like "call an illegal pitch on this pitcher", "require a player to remove her jewelry", "call interference without contact", "call a girl out for slinging a bat", etc.

I guess I am the only umpire that follows the rules. ;)

I know exactly how you feel. I used to get the same response from coaches, too. I'll bet you'll keep your rule book in your bag from now on. Next time, have him bet you more than a Coke!!! LOL

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CecilOne Wed May 21, 2003 04:40pm

I don't believe in ever having a rule book in sight unless it's one of those special league rules. I would just hold the $100 until the coach finds his book.

JennSoftball99 Wed May 21, 2003 04:54pm

The infield fly rule requires only a runner on first... any time there would be a force out...

Striker991 Wed May 21, 2003 05:07pm

Got my hunnert out....
 
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Originally posted by JennSoftball99
The infield fly rule requires only a runner on first... any time there would be a force out...
As a player of ten years, you should know this answer. Got my C-note on the table...care to try to take it away from me?

JennSoftball99 Wed May 21, 2003 05:10pm

I am saying that by the rules of my Indiana softball league which plays NSA, the infield fly rule does apply to a runner on first with less than 2 outs.

Striker991 Wed May 21, 2003 05:19pm

Oh, really?
 
Please consult page 10 of the NSA rulebook for the definition of Infield Fly. This is section 27 under definitions. You will find the correct answer there. Infield Fly is not a rule that can be changed by the local league. And, according to your Indiana State NSA, it hasn't changed it.

[Edited by Striker991 on May 21st, 2003 at 05:21 PM]

IRISHMAFIA Wed May 21, 2003 07:58pm

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Originally posted by alabamabluezebra
This is the same assistant coach that likes to start rebuttals by say "I have managed or coached youth sports for the last seven years and you're the first umpire to...". You can add the next phrase like "call an illegal pitch on this pitcher", "require a player to remove her jewelry", "call interference without contact", "call a girl out for slinging a bat", etc.

I guess I am the only umpire that follows the rules. ;)

So far this year I am the first umpire to:

Check the bats, throw bats out of a game, ask for a line-up card, call illegal pitches (over 12', SP), ask a player to wear his hat correctly, throw the ball down after 3 warm-up pitches, throw out illegal warm-up bats, insist on .44/375 balls and hustle away from the plate.

I guess all I need to say in response is, "thank you!"

CecilOne Thu May 22, 2003 08:13am

Oh well, I thought I was first :o (4/29 for .375, 5/4 for lineups, illegal pitches (over 12' and under 6'), 3 warm-up pitches, and hustle away from the plate). ;)


Dakota Thu May 22, 2003 09:24am

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Originally posted by CecilOne
Oh well, I thought I was first ...
We are always the first umpire on these kinds of calls! ;)

Last season, I called a pitcher for a leap in a tournament. Naturally, I was the first umpire to ever call her on that. After the game, back at the umpire's tent, I asked about her. At least 3 other umpires had already called her on that in that tournament alone.

But, I was the first! :D


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