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IRISHMAFIA Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:01am

Official ASA Approved Changes
 
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These have been approved by the General Council


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</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" height=20><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM-COLOR: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP-COLOR: #f0f0f0; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-RIGHT-COLOR: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT-COLOR: #f0f0f0" height=20>All adult SP except Seniors move bases to 70' - effective in 2013</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" height=20><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM-COLOR: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP-COLOR: #f0f0f0; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-RIGHT-COLOR: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT-COLOR: #f0f0f0" height=20>
Men's adult SP except Seniors move bases to 70'

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</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" height=20><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM-COLOR: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP-COLOR: #f0f0f0; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-RIGHT-COLOR: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT-COLOR: #f0f0f0" height=20>Clarify safety "grip" as opposed to "tape" and reduce the minimum coverage to 6"

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</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" height=20><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM-COLOR: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP-COLOR: #f0f0f0; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-RIGHT-COLOR: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT-COLOR: #f0f0f0" height=20>Allows the BR to advance beyond 1B only if there is a play made on another runner or there is an errant throw.

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AtlUmpSteve Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:21am

Can you clarify the two changes to 70', please? Are they saying Men in 2012, then Coed and Women in 2013, or does the "All" in 2013 supercede?

Big Slick Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:38am

Quote:

Originally Posted by AtlUmpSteve (Post 797892)
Can you clarify the two changes to 70', please? Are they saying Men in 2012, then Coed and Women in 2013, or does the "All" in 2013 supercede?

I was wondering the same thing. When does the Men's Masters move to 70?

As for the wooden bat issue seems a bit backward. Those made prior to 2000 are legal by rule. "Plays of the month" over the summer stated that those made after 2000 needed to be stamped. However, they are (and manufacturers are not stamping them). The new rule needs to make all wooden bats legal if they conform to all characteristics of a legal bat (weight, size, knob, grip).

IRISHMAFIA Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:49am

Quote:

Originally Posted by AtlUmpSteve (Post 797892)
Can you clarify the two changes to 70', please? Are they saying Men in 2012, then Coed and Women in 2013, or does the "All" in 2013 supercede?

Yes, Men's this year, the rest of SP in 2013. Remember, 16" is not affected since they are considered their own division of the game.

IRISHMAFIA Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:52am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Slick (Post 797894)
I was wondering the same thing. When does the Men's Masters move to 70?

As for the wooden bat issue seems a bit backward. Those made prior to 2000 are legal by rule. "Plays of the month" over the summer stated that those made after 2000 needed to be stamped. However, they are (and manufacturers are not stamping them). The new rule needs to make all wooden bats legal if they conform to all characteristics of a legal bat (weight, size, knob, grip).

The point there is that the manufacturers were told to apply the stamps beginning in 2000. Maybe it is a trademark or licensing issue, really don't know.

Skahtboi Thu Nov 10, 2011 01:33pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA (Post 797899)

All adult SP except Seniors move bases to 70'

Men's adult SP except Seniors move bases to 70'

A little redundant?

NCASAUmp Thu Nov 10, 2011 01:36pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skahtboi (Post 797940)
A little redundant?

Men's adult SP will move the bases in 2012.

The rest of adult SP will move the bases in 2013.

This excludes, of course, senior SP and 16" SP.

tcannizzo Fri Nov 11, 2011 11:08am

Any explanation as to why 43ft for 14-U was not approved?

AtlUmpSteve Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:33pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by tcannizzo (Post 798146)
Any explanation as to why 43ft for 14-U was not approved?

Because it wasn't proposed?

NCASAUmp Fri Nov 11, 2011 01:15pm

Seems that if the Chinese had a softball calendar, this was the year of the Slow Pitch.

There are 11 changes that Irish listed below, and 6 of those 11 are changes for SP only. The remaining 5 changes affect all levels of softball. Not a single FP-specific change.

I know a lot of players who will be happy with these changes. As a primarily SP umpire, I'm glad to see a bit of focus devoted to SP this year. The program has had some difficulties as of late, and I think these changes are all positive ones for the program.

NCASAUmp Mon Nov 14, 2011 12:22pm

In looking through the proposed rule changes, I noticed a peculiar change in the wording. On #9 (changing the safety tape to safety "grip" and reducing it to 6"), I noticed that it says that "resin, pine tar or spray substances are permissible on the Safety Grip region only."

Was this the wording that was approved? If so, would that be to say that players can spray their bats up to 15" from the safety knob, even if their grip only extends 6" from the knob?

NCASAUmp Wed Nov 16, 2011 09:06pm

Guess we'll have to wait and see. :)

Rich Ives Thu Nov 17, 2011 12:00am

So what's this one???


"Allows the BR to advance beyond 1B only if there is a play made on another runner or there is an errant throw."

AtlUmpSteve Thu Nov 17, 2011 01:15am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich Ives (Post 798924)
So what's this one???

"Allows the BR to advance beyond 1B only if there is a play made on another runner or there is an errant throw."

Slow Pitch with stealing, not allowing a walked batter to continue to 2nd unless a play is made by the defense. Standard double jeopardy play in fastpitch, not intended to be part of the slowpitch game when stealing was introduced to that game.

Dakota Thu Nov 17, 2011 08:34am

Quote:

Originally Posted by AtlUmpSteve (Post 798926)
Slow Pitch with stealing, not allowing a walked batter to continue to 2nd unless a play is made by the defense. Standard double jeopardy play in fastpitch, not intended to be part of the slowpitch game when stealing was introduced to that game.

While I assumed this was a slow pitch only change, the OP did not state such.


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