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Dakota Sun Oct 09, 2011 01:16pm

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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA (Post 791934)
...I want a beer that tastes like BEER. Not strawberry, not cherry, not lime, not coffee, not lemon, not....well, you get the point. ....

I agree, and longstanding "tradition" of mucking about with beer flavors notwithstanding, barley and hops should be the predominate flavor, otherwise, it is merely some kind of fruity flavored grain beverage. One of the top-rated fruit beers had this comment by a reviewer "Smells almost like fruity pebbles!"

No thanks.

IRISHMAFIA Sun Oct 09, 2011 03:07pm

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Originally Posted by Dakota (Post 792343)
I agree, and longstanding "tradition" of mucking about with beer flavors notwithstanding, barley and hops should be the predominate flavor, otherwise, it is merely some kind of fruity flavored grain beverage. One of the top-rated fruit beers had this comment by a reviewer "Smells almost like fruity pebbles!"

No thanks.

Pebbles smelled fruity? I guess Bamm Bamm would know! :rolleyes:
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...VHMpZWcPOK1RGQ

NCASAUmp Sun Oct 09, 2011 05:39pm

http://verydemotivational.files.word...sters-beer.jpg

Welpe Mon Oct 10, 2011 08:53am

All this arguing over IPAs, let me know when you get to porters or stouts. :cool:

Umpteenth Mon Oct 10, 2011 08:53am

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Originally Posted by Dakota (Post 792127)
However, "ale" describes how it is brewed...

Essentially, all beers are brewed the same way. Certainly, there are temperature differences and mash times will vary, but the process is the same.

"Ales" are fermented using Ale yeasts. These ferment between 50 - 65 deg F, typically. "Lagers" use Lager yeasts. These ferment between 45 - 58 deg F, and typically ferment for a longer period of time.

Ales may be moved from primary fermentation into a seconday vessel for a week or two. This allows additional sediment to drop to the bottom of the vessel, and the beer clears better. Or, instead, commercial brewers will filter the beer to remove and remaining particles. Ale yeasts are used for brewing ales, porters, stouts, Altbier, Kolsch, and wheat beers.

Lagers, once moved into a secondary vessel, may sit for a month or longer, and typically produce a very clear (no haze, or particles) beer. This part of the process is what makes a Pilsner so crisp and clean tasting. Examples using lager yeasts include Pilsners, Dortmunders, Marzen, Bocks, and American malt liquors.

Dakota Mon Oct 10, 2011 11:44am

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Originally Posted by Umpteenth (Post 792463)
Essentially, all beers are brewed the same way.....

Then, you proceed to describe how ales and lagers are brewed differently. Ummm... OK. ;)

Umpteenth Tue Oct 11, 2011 08:11am

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Originally Posted by Dakota (Post 792516)
Then, you proceed to describe how ales and lagers are brewed differently. Ummm... OK. ;)

Nope, they ferment at different temperatures, but the process is the same.

Crush the grains.
Mash the grains to convert starches to sugars.
Drain to collect the wort.
Sparge the grains to rinse as much of the sugars off the grains as possible.
Boil the wort; add hops at specified intervals.
Chill the wort.
Pitch the yeast.
Ferment.
Keg or bottle.
Carbonate.
Drink beer.

Brew day is about 6 hours. From Brew Day to Drinking day varies. Could be anywhere between 4 weeks and 6 months (or more). Ales are drinkable earlier than lagers, generally speaking.

Dakota Tue Oct 11, 2011 08:22am

Yes, all beer is "brewed", but ales are brewed with different yeasts, at different temperatures, with ... IOW, brewed differently. Jeez.

Skahtboi Tue Oct 11, 2011 09:31am

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Originally Posted by Umpteenth (Post 792712)
Nope, they ferment at different temperatures, but the process is the same.

Crush the grains.
Mash the grains to convert starches to sugars.
Drain to collect the wort.
Sparge the grains to rinse as much of the sugars off the grains as possible.
Boil the wort; add hops at specified intervals.
Chill the wort.
Pitch the yeast.
Ferment.
Keg or bottle.
Carbonate.
Drink beer.

Brew day is about 6 hours. From Brew Day to Drinking day varies. Could be anywhere between 4 weeks and 6 months (or more). Ales are drinkable earlier than lagers, generally speaking.

What happened to roasting the grains????

umpirebob71 Tue Oct 11, 2011 10:08am

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Originally Posted by Umpteenth (Post 792712)
Nope, they ferment at different temperatures, but the process is the same.

Crush the grains.
Mash the grains to convert starches to sugars.
Drain to collect the wort.
Sparge the grains to rinse as much of the sugars off the grains as possible.
Boil the wort; add hops at specified intervals.
Chill the wort.
Pitch the yeast.
Ferment.
Keg or bottle.
Carbonate.
Drink beer.

Brew day is about 6 hours. From Brew Day to Drinking day varies. Could be anywhere between 4 weeks and 6 months (or more). Ales are drinkable earlier than lagers, generally speaking.

My favorite part of this post..."Drink beer."

NCASAUmp Tue Oct 11, 2011 10:10am

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Originally Posted by umpirebob71 (Post 792739)
My favorite part of this post..."Drink beer."

That's the best takeaway.

MD Longhorn Tue Oct 11, 2011 10:14am

I wasn't expecting to read the word WORT today. Or SPARGE for that matter.


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